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      1 From groups@hjdivad.com  Wed Sep  1 14:55:26 2010
      2 From: groups@hjdivad.com (David J. Hamilton)
      3 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 11:55:26 -0700
      4 Subject: [sup-talk] Trying sup with gmail
      5 In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinnoyGXjYTxC0bpuZR=fajBH-m+8HsXEVPxgx9p@mail.gmail.com>
      6 References: <AANLkTinnoyGXjYTxC0bpuZR=fajBH-m+8HsXEVPxgx9p@mail.gmail.com>
      7 Message-ID: <AANLkTi=y0MfutXkShjF6mqVVNvVwZ5yHZO=qnYd-7peX@mail.gmail.com>
      8 
      9 Hello,
     10 
     11 I am trying to use sup for the first time and am having some
     12 difficulties. ?I currently use gmail, so I am trying to add it as a
     13 source. ?The new user guide[1] states that I could use either
     14 sup-config or sup-add to add an IMAP source, which is what I have
     15 tried. ? Unfortunately, sup-add refuses to recognize imap[s].
     16 
     17 ? ?[davidjh at nyx (master; ruby-1.8.7-p302)] ~
     18 ? ?$ sup --version
     19 ? ?sup v0.11
     20 
     21 ? ?[davidjh at nyx (master; ruby-1.8.7-p302)] ~
     22 ? ?$ sup-add --help
     23 ? ?Adds a source to the Sup source list.
     24 
     25 ? ?Usage:
     26 ? ? ?sup-add [options] <source uri>+
     27 
     28 ? ?where <source uri>+ is one or more source URIs.
     29 
     30 ? ?For mbox files on local disk, use the form:
     31 ? ? ? ?mbox:<path to mbox file>, or
     32 ? ? ? ?mbox://<path to mbox file>
     33 
     34 ? ?For Maildir folders, use the form:
     35 ? ? ? ?maildir:<path to Maildir directory>; or
     36 ? ? ? ?maildir://<path to Maildir directory>
     37 
     38 ? ?Options are:
     39 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?--archive, -a: ? Automatically archive all new
     40 messages from these sources.
     41 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?--unusual, -u: ? Do not automatically poll these
     42 sources for new messages.
     43 ? ? ? ? ? ? --labels, -l <s>: ? A comma-separated set of labels to
     44 apply to all messages from this source
     45 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?--force-new, -f: ? Create a new account for this source,
     46 even if one already exists.
     47 ? ? ?--force-account, -o <s>: ? Reuse previously defined account user at hostname.
     48 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?--version, -v: ? Print version and exit
     49 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? --help, -h: ? Show this message
     50 
     51 ? ?[davidjh at nyx (master; ruby-1.8.7-p302)] ~
     52 ? ?$ sup-add imaps://imap.google.com
     53 ? ?Error: Unknown source type "imaps".
     54 ? ?Try --help for help.
     55 ? ?[Wed Sep 01 11:36:48 -0700 2010] Flushing Xapian updates to disk.
     56 This may take a while...
     57 
     58 ? ?[davidjh at nyx (master; ruby-1.8.7-p302)] ~
     59 ? ?$ sup-add imap://imap.google.com
     60 ? ?Error: Unknown source type "imap".
     61 ? ?Try --help for help.
     62 ? ?[Wed Sep 01 11:36:51 -0700 2010] Flushing Xapian updates to disk.
     63 This may take a while...
     64 
     65 
     66 Checking the source, it seems adding imap sources was removed around
     67 February, in commit 5bb1b3a29bc434c006ce0f4886059de3fa0d9801. ?There
     68 is a brief note about using offlineimap, but not much more.
     69 
     70 
     71 Is it possible to add gmail as a source in the current version of sup,
     72 and if so what is the recommended way of doing this? ?I am quite happy
     73 to RTFM if somebody could kindly point me towards the FM I must R. ?It
     74 is fine if the answer is IMAP is basically not supported, but if I
     75 read up on offlineimap I can find a way to get a non-imap (mbox,
     76 maildir?) interface, but at the moment it feels as if I am just going
     77 in the wrong direction.
     78 
     79 [1] http://sup.rubyforge.org/NewUserGuide.txt
     80 
     81 --
     82 med v?nlig h?lsning
     83 David J. Hamilton
     84 
     85 From marka@pobox.com  Wed Sep  1 15:58:42 2010
     86 From: marka@pobox.com (Mark Alexander)
     87 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:58:42 -0400
     88 Subject: [sup-talk] Trying sup with gmail
     89 In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=y0MfutXkShjF6mqVVNvVwZ5yHZO=qnYd-7peX@mail.gmail.com>
     90 References: <AANLkTinnoyGXjYTxC0bpuZR=fajBH-m+8HsXEVPxgx9p@mail.gmail.com>
     91 	<AANLkTi=y0MfutXkShjF6mqVVNvVwZ5yHZO=qnYd-7peX@mail.gmail.com>
     92 Message-ID: <1283370560-sup-9418@x41>
     93 
     94 Excerpts from David J. Hamilton's message of Wed Sep 01 14:55:26 -0400 2010:
     95 > Is it possible to add gmail as a source in the current version of sup,
     96 > and if so what is the recommended way of doing this? ?I am quite happy
     97 > to RTFM if somebody could kindly point me towards the FM I must R. ?It
     98 > is fine if the answer is IMAP is basically not supported, but if I
     99 > read up on offlineimap I can find a way to get a non-imap (mbox,
    100 > maildir?) interface, but at the moment it feels as if I am just going
    101 > in the wrong direction.
    102 
    103 My understanding is that IMAP is not supported any more by sup (I've
    104 never used IMAP sources, so I could be wrong about this).
    105 
    106 I use both Gmail and MS Exchange with sup, using fetchmail and
    107 maildrop to fetch the mail and store it locally.  (I use msmtp to
    108 send mail.)
    109 
    110 I tried offlineimap for a while.  I know it's popular, but I abandoned
    111 it because I was having problems with messages being moved from one
    112 maildir to another.  I was definitely having this problem with
    113 Exchange, and it seemed to be related to deleted messages.  I can't
    114 remember if I was having this problem with Gmail; probably not.
    115 
    116 In any case, fetchmail and maildrop seem very solid.  They don't give
    117 you the ability to sync changes back to the IMAP server, but I never
    118 needed that feature, and my understanding is that sup doesn't quite
    119 support that yet anyway (or maybe it's experimental?).
    120 
    121 From michael+sup@stapelberg.de  Wed Sep  1 16:11:06 2010
    122 From: michael+sup@stapelberg.de (Michael Stapelberg)
    123 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2010 22:11:06 +0200
    124 Subject: [sup-talk] Trying sup with gmail
    125 In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=y0MfutXkShjF6mqVVNvVwZ5yHZO=qnYd-7peX@mail.gmail.com>
    126 References: <AANLkTinnoyGXjYTxC0bpuZR=fajBH-m+8HsXEVPxgx9p@mail.gmail.com>
    127 	<AANLkTi=y0MfutXkShjF6mqVVNvVwZ5yHZO=qnYd-7peX@mail.gmail.com>
    128 Message-ID: <1283371814-sup-3556@midna.zekjur.net>
    129 
    130 Hi David,
    131 
    132 Excerpts from David J. Hamilton's message of 2010-09-01 20:55:26 +0200:
    133 > Is it possible to add gmail as a source in the current version of sup,
    134 > and if so what is the recommended way of doing this? ?I am quite happy
    135 You can have a look at http://anirudhsanjeev.org/temp/supsite/ which explains
    136 how to set up sup with gmail.
    137 
    138 Best regards,
    139 Michael
    140 
    141 From dlordxorso@yahoo.com  Fri Sep  3 09:13:40 2010
    142 From: dlordxorso@yahoo.com (Daren Lord)
    143 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 06:13:40 -0700 (PDT)
    144 Subject: [sup-talk] Arch Linux sup now failing.
    145 Message-ID: <747172.93895.qm@web63905.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
    146 
    147 There must have been an arch package update that is now causing my sup mail to 
    148 fail with this error.
    149 
    150 /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:762:in `report_activate_error': Could not find 
    151 RubyGem ncurses (>= 0) (Gem::LoadError)
    152     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:219:in `activate'
    153     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:254:in `block in activate'
    154     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:253:in `each'
    155     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:253:in `activate'
    156     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:1065:in `gem'
    157     from /usr/bin/sup:18:in `<main>'
    158 
    159 I have both ncurses and ncursesw installed through the aur branch.
    160 
    161 Any ideas? Use this at work so I am down right now.
    162 
    163 aur/ruby-ncurses 1.2.4-1 [installed] (17)
    164     This ruby extension makes most functions, constants, and external variables 
    165 of the C library ncurses accessible 
    166 
    167     from the Ruby programming language. 
    168 aur/ruby-ncursesw 1.2.4.1-2 [installed] (17)
    169     Ruby wrapper for ncurses providing wide character support.
    170 
    171 Thanks,
    172 
    173 dalord
    174 
    175 
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    181 From piotr.kempa@sigarden.com  Fri Sep  3 09:33:07 2010
    182 From: piotr.kempa@sigarden.com (Piotr Kempa)
    183 Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:33:07 +0200
    184 Subject: [sup-talk] Arch Linux sup now failing.
    185 In-Reply-To: <747172.93895.qm@web63905.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
    186 References: <747172.93895.qm@web63905.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
    187 Message-ID: <1283520512-sup-6361@pk-desktop>
    188 
    189 Excerpts from Daren Lord's message of 2010-09-03 15:13:40 +0200:
    190 > There must have been an arch package update that is now causing my sup mail to 
    191 > fail with this error.
    192 > 
    193 > /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:762:in `report_activate_error': Could not find 
    194 > RubyGem ncurses (>= 0) (Gem::LoadError)
    195 >     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:219:in `activate'
    196 >     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:254:in `block in activate'
    197 >     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:253:in `each'
    198 >     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:253:in `activate'
    199 >     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:1065:in `gem'
    200 >     from /usr/bin/sup:18:in `<main>'
    201 > 
    202 > I have both ncurses and ncursesw installed through the aur branch.
    203 > 
    204 > Any ideas? Use this at work so I am down right now.
    205 > 
    206 > aur/ruby-ncurses 1.2.4-1 [installed] (17)
    207 >     This ruby extension makes most functions, constants, and external variables 
    208 > of the C library ncurses accessible 
    209 > 
    210 >     from the Ruby programming language. 
    211 > aur/ruby-ncursesw 1.2.4.1-2 [installed] (17)
    212 >     Ruby wrapper for ncurses providing wide character support.
    213 > 
    214 > Thanks,
    215 > 
    216 > dalord
    217 > 
    218 
    219 Hi, I just had the same thing this morning. I reinstalled sup from aur
    220 (there's been a new package version, upgraded me from 0.11-1 to 0.11-2)
    221 and just in case backed ruby (upgraded recently to 1.9.2) to 1.9.1. I'm
    222 not sure the latter was necessary but I'm up and running again. I'm
    223 using this at work too so I have no time to experiment with upgrading
    224 ruby, but I'll try when I get a chance (especially if somebody here can
    225 confirm sup works with ruby 1.9.2 on their box). 
    226 
    227 The new package release -2 depends on ruby-ncursesw instead of
    228 ruby-ncurses the -1 depended on - this might have something to do with
    229 the whole error (but it's just a guess). 
    230 
    231 Try respawning sup from aur and if this doesn't help, downgrade ruby to
    232 1.9.1. 
    233 
    234 Good luck!
    235 Piotr
    236 
    237 From arian.kuschki@googlemail.com  Fri Sep  3 11:26:22 2010
    238 From: arian.kuschki@googlemail.com (Arian Kuschki)
    239 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 17:26:22 +0200
    240 Subject: [sup-talk] Arch Linux sup now failing.
    241 In-Reply-To: <747172.93895.qm@web63905.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
    242 References: <747172.93895.qm@web63905.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
    243 Message-ID: <AANLkTi=3UQX4ULet==e+my5rWuvCLLCqACKa5CgJ9n6d@mail.gmail.com>
    244 
    245 same thing happened to me on Arch Linux a couple of days ago after the
    246 upgrade to ruby 1.9.2. p0 (or similar, can't check right now). downgrading
    247  to 1.9.1 didn't help. I would also be happy if somebody could help.
    248 
    249 On 3 September 2010 15:13, Daren Lord <dlordxorso at yahoo.com> wrote:
    250 
    251 > There must have been an arch package update that is now causing my sup mail
    252 > to fail with this error.
    253 >
    254 > /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:762:in `report_activate_error': Could not
    255 > find RubyGem ncurses (>= 0) (Gem::LoadError)
    256 >     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:219:in `activate'
    257 >     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:254:in `block in activate'
    258 >     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:253:in `each'
    259 >     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:253:in `activate'
    260 >     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:1065:in `gem'
    261 >     from /usr/bin/sup:18:in `<main>'
    262 >
    263 > I have both ncurses and ncursesw installed through the aur branch.
    264 >
    265 > Any ideas? Use this at work so I am down right now.
    266 >
    267 > aur/ruby-ncurses 1.2.4-1 [installed] (17)
    268 >     This ruby extension makes most functions, constants, and external
    269 > variables of the C library ncurses accessible
    270 >     from the Ruby programming language.
    271 > aur/ruby-ncursesw 1.2.4.1-2 [installed] (17)
    272 >     Ruby wrapper for ncurses providing wide character support.
    273 >
    274 > Thanks,
    275 >
    276 > dalord
    277 >
    278 >
    279 >
    280 > _______________________________________________
    281 > sup-talk mailing list
    282 > sup-talk at rubyforge.org
    283 > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/sup-talk
    284 >
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    290 From hollunder@lavabit.com  Fri Sep  3 13:57:38 2010
    291 From: hollunder@lavabit.com (hollunder at lavabit.com)
    292 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 13:57:38 -0400 (EDT)
    293 Subject: [sup-talk] Arch Linux sup now failing.
    294 In-Reply-To: <1283520512-sup-6361@pk-desktop>
    295 References: <747172.93895.qm@web63905.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
    296 	<1283520512-sup-6361@pk-desktop>
    297 Message-ID: <1438.143.205.216.185.1283536658.squirrel@lavabit.com>
    298 
    299 > Excerpts from Daren Lord's message of 2010-09-03 15:13:40 +0200:
    300 >> There must have been an arch package update that is now causing my sup
    301 >> mail to
    302 >> fail with this error.
    303 >>
    304 >> /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:762:in `report_activate_error': Could
    305 >> not find
    306 >> RubyGem ncurses (>= 0) (Gem::LoadError)
    307 >>     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:219:in `activate'
    308 >>     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:254:in `block in activate'
    309 >>     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:253:in `each'
    310 >>     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:253:in `activate'
    311 >>     from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:1065:in `gem'
    312 >>     from /usr/bin/sup:18:in `<main>'
    313 >>
    314 >> I have both ncurses and ncursesw installed through the aur branch.
    315 >>
    316 >> Any ideas? Use this at work so I am down right now.
    317 >>
    318 >> aur/ruby-ncurses 1.2.4-1 [installed] (17)
    319 >>     This ruby extension makes most functions, constants, and external
    320 >> variables
    321 >> of the C library ncurses accessible
    322 >>
    323 >>     from the Ruby programming language.
    324 >> aur/ruby-ncursesw 1.2.4.1-2 [installed] (17)
    325 >>     Ruby wrapper for ncurses providing wide character support.
    326 >>
    327 >> Thanks,
    328 >>
    329 >> dalord
    330 >>
    331 >
    332 > Hi, I just had the same thing this morning. I reinstalled sup from aur
    333 > (there's been a new package version, upgraded me from 0.11-1 to 0.11-2)
    334 > and just in case backed ruby (upgraded recently to 1.9.2) to 1.9.1. I'm
    335 > not sure the latter was necessary but I'm up and running again. I'm
    336 > using this at work too so I have no time to experiment with upgrading
    337 > ruby, but I'll try when I get a chance (especially if somebody here can
    338 > confirm sup works with ruby 1.9.2 on their box).
    339 >
    340 > The new package release -2 depends on ruby-ncursesw instead of
    341 > ruby-ncurses the -1 depended on - this might have something to do with
    342 > the whole error (but it's just a guess).
    343 >
    344 > Try respawning sup from aur and if this doesn't help, downgrade ruby to
    345 > 1.9.1.
    346 >
    347 > Good luck!
    348 > Piotr
    349 
    350 The situation looks grim. I don't seem to have the 1.9.1 package anymore
    351 due to a recent cache cleaning. Read all the things I tried:
    352 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26439
    353 
    354 How can a stupid minor version change break things so badly? And no one
    355 knows what's wrong or how to solve this mess? I'm kinda pissed.
    356 
    357 Maybe we can get sup into community, so it's kinda supported and might get
    358 some testing that would catch this kind of breakage before it hits users.
    359 
    360 
    361 
    362 From eg@gaute.vetsj.com  Fri Sep  3 14:13:42 2010
    363 From: eg@gaute.vetsj.com (Gaute Hope)
    364 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 20:13:42 +0200
    365 Subject: [sup-talk] Arch Linux sup now failing.
    366 In-Reply-To: <1438.143.205.216.185.1283536658.squirrel@lavabit.com>
    367 References: <747172.93895.qm@web63905.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
    368 	<1283520512-sup-6361@pk-desktop>
    369 	<1438.143.205.216.185.1283536658.squirrel@lavabit.com>
    370 Message-ID: <AANLkTimujj1BxAj8knRra1qWCxe-aUKiZNoGQ8msrnvt@mail.gmail.com>
    371 
    372 Hey,
    373 
    374 ran into the same problem. The first problem I ran into was related to
    375 ncursesw using STR2CSTR () and not StringValuePtr, this has been
    376 obsolete for a while, but was apparently removed in 1.9.2. I got
    377 ncurses to work; see attached PKGBUILD with patch. But there were some
    378 problems with the tmpfile stuff, sup would start (complain about
    379 ncurses not being ncursesw, which i don't think is correct because i
    380 didn't seem to have problems with wide chars.. but well well, probably
    381 just a matter of names). But when creating a new message it would
    382 fail.
    383 
    384 So I gave up :p and downgraded to 1.9.1-p378 from arch, I jumped a few
    385 revisions back in Arch'es ABS (PKGBUILD's), I'll attach the PKGBUILD
    386 here for you, but you could grab it yourself from ArchLinux's
    387 repository. Still rebuilding some gems so haven't been able to test if
    388 something else is the cause yet.. but this should work.
    389 
    390 To be able to build the old ruby I first had to delete the 1.9.2
    391 ruby.. (otherwise the build will segfault). I just removed it with
    392 pacman -Ud ruby ( or actually yaourt.. but..)
    393 
    394 The attached files should be put in their own folder and you can
    395 create the packages with makepkg, and install the resulting *.pkg..*
    396 with pacman -U filename.
    397 
    398 - gaute
    399 
    400 On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 7:57 PM,  <hollunder at lavabit.com> wrote:
    401 >> Excerpts from Daren Lord's message of 2010-09-03 15:13:40 +0200:
    402 >>> There must have been an arch package update that is now causing my sup
    403 >>> mail to
    404 >>> fail with this error.
    405 >>>
    406 >>> /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:762:in `report_activate_error': Could
    407 >>> not find
    408 >>> RubyGem ncurses (>= 0) (Gem::LoadError)
    409 >>> ? ? from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:219:in `activate'
    410 >>> ? ? from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:254:in `block in activate'
    411 >>> ? ? from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:253:in `each'
    412 >>> ? ? from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:253:in `activate'
    413 >>> ? ? from /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:1065:in `gem'
    414 >>> ? ? from /usr/bin/sup:18:in `<main>'
    415 >>>
    416 >>> I have both ncurses and ncursesw installed through the aur branch.
    417 >>>
    418 >>> Any ideas? Use this at work so I am down right now.
    419 >>>
    420 >>> aur/ruby-ncurses 1.2.4-1 [installed] (17)
    421 >>> ? ? This ruby extension makes most functions, constants, and external
    422 >>> variables
    423 >>> of the C library ncurses accessible
    424 >>>
    425 >>> ? ? from the Ruby programming language.
    426 >>> aur/ruby-ncursesw 1.2.4.1-2 [installed] (17)
    427 >>> ? ? Ruby wrapper for ncurses providing wide character support.
    428 >>>
    429 >>> Thanks,
    430 >>>
    431 >>> dalord
    432 >>>
    433 >>
    434 >> Hi, I just had the same thing this morning. I reinstalled sup from aur
    435 >> (there's been a new package version, upgraded me from 0.11-1 to 0.11-2)
    436 >> and just in case backed ruby (upgraded recently to 1.9.2) to 1.9.1. I'm
    437 >> not sure the latter was necessary but I'm up and running again. I'm
    438 >> using this at work too so I have no time to experiment with upgrading
    439 >> ruby, but I'll try when I get a chance (especially if somebody here can
    440 >> confirm sup works with ruby 1.9.2 on their box).
    441 >>
    442 >> The new package release -2 depends on ruby-ncursesw instead of
    443 >> ruby-ncurses the -1 depended on - this might have something to do with
    444 >> the whole error (but it's just a guess).
    445 >>
    446 >> Try respawning sup from aur and if this doesn't help, downgrade ruby to
    447 >> 1.9.1.
    448 >>
    449 >> Good luck!
    450 >> Piotr
    451 >
    452 > The situation looks grim. I don't seem to have the 1.9.1 package anymore
    453 > due to a recent cache cleaning. Read all the things I tried:
    454 > http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26439
    455 >
    456 > How can a stupid minor version change break things so badly? And no one
    457 > knows what's wrong or how to solve this mess? I'm kinda pissed.
    458 >
    459 > Maybe we can get sup into community, so it's kinda supported and might get
    460 > some testing that would catch this kind of breakage before it hits users.
    461 >
    462 >
    463 > _______________________________________________
    464 > sup-talk mailing list
    465 > sup-talk at rubyforge.org
    466 > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/sup-talk
    467 >
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    483 From eg@gaute.vetsj.com  Fri Sep  3 14:25:04 2010
    484 From: eg@gaute.vetsj.com (Gaute Hope)
    485 Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 20:25:04 +0200
    486 Subject: [sup-talk] Arch Linux sup now failing.
    487 In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimujj1BxAj8knRra1qWCxe-aUKiZNoGQ8msrnvt@mail.gmail.com>
    488 References: <747172.93895.qm@web63905.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
    489 	<1283520512-sup-6361@pk-desktop>
    490 	<1438.143.205.216.185.1283536658.squirrel@lavabit.com>
    491 	<AANLkTimujj1BxAj8knRra1qWCxe-aUKiZNoGQ8msrnvt@mail.gmail.com>
    492 Message-ID: <1283537988-sup-5681@dolk>
    493 
    494 Excerpts from Gaute Hope's message of 2010-09-03 20:13:42 +0200:
    495 > So I gave up :p and downgraded to 1.9.1-p378 from arch, I jumped a few
    496 > revisions back in Arch'es ABS (PKGBUILD's), I'll attach the PKGBUILD
    497 > here for you, but you could grab it yourself from ArchLinux's
    498 > repository. Still rebuilding some gems so haven't been able to test if
    499 > something else is the cause yet.. but this should work.
    500 
    501 Yeah, that worked. Writing this from sup. In cases the attachements
    502 don't appear at the mailing list the updated ruby-ncurses PKGBUILD is
    503 located here: http://github.com/gauteh/arch/tree/master/ruby-ncursesw/
    504 
    505 (don't use it thou, it might be helpful for anyone who want to get sup
    506 to work on 1.9.2)
    507 
    508 You can find the old PKGBUILDS for ruby here: 
    509 p378:
    510 http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/packages/ruby/trunk/?rev=75260&peg=75260
    511 
    512 but p429 should probably also work:
    513 http://repos.archlinux.org/wsvn/packages/ruby/trunk/?rev=84971&peg=84971
    514 
    515 checkout the wiki or manpage on how to use 'makepkg'.
    516 
    517 - gaute
    518  
    519 
    520 From _@whats-your.name  Fri Sep  3 19:01:55 2010
    521 From: _@whats-your.name (carmen)
    522 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 23:01:55 +0000
    523 Subject: [sup-talk] Arch Linux sup now failing.
    524 In-Reply-To: <1438.143.205.216.185.1283536658.squirrel@lavabit.com>
    525 References: <1438.143.205.216.185.1283536658.squirrel@lavabit.com>
    526 Message-ID: <20100903230155.GA4001@myhost.Belkin>
    527 
    528 > How can a stupid minor version change break things so badly?
    529 Arch totally hosed 1.9.2 here too. way beyond sup, into justnuking Gem-installed lib functionality in general
    530 
    531 actually, ive never used sup beacuse it refuses to find my mail (notmuch has no issues) because its not in {cur,new,tmp} subdirs. nor does it seem to recursively dig. but i spent a while and there was just too much code to read, so i wrote my own webmail [ http://gitorious.org/element/element/blobs/master/ruby/W/mail.rb ] 
    532 
    533 well, TMail is totally broken on 1.9.2, and RMail (as sup uses) and Mail (from TMail's maintainer and now abandoner) is simply way too slow as theyre pure-ruby
    534 
    535 unless you install activeSupport 2.3.x which has a hacked tmail that runson 1.9.x
    536 
    537 anyways.. i'm trying to figure out a good permanent solution to this, and it seems to involve rewriting eveyrthing in HAskell..
    538 
    539 From hollunder@lavabit.com  Sat Sep  4 05:05:07 2010
    540 From: hollunder@lavabit.com (=?utf-8?q?Philipp_=C3=9Cberbacher?=)
    541 Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 11:05:07 +0200
    542 Subject: [sup-talk] Arch Linux sup now failing.
    543 In-Reply-To: <20100903230155.GA4001@myhost.Belkin>
    544 References: <1438.143.205.216.185.1283536658.squirrel@lavabit.com>
    545 	<20100903230155.GA4001@myhost.Belkin>
    546 Message-ID: <1283590730-sup-9050@eris>
    547 
    548 Excerpts from carmen's message of 2010-09-04 01:01:55 +0200:
    549 > > How can a stupid minor version change break things so badly?
    550 > Arch totally hosed 1.9.2 here too. way beyond sup, into justnuking Gem-installed lib functionality in general
    551 
    552 Ok, good to know that other stuff is broken too, so it's not entirely
    553 sups fault and the Arch devs need to look into this. I filed a bug
    554 report (with a somewhat bad title) sometime yesterday:
    555 http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/20733
    556 
    557 > actually, ive never used sup beacuse it refuses to find my mail (notmuch has no issues) because its not in {cur,new,tmp} subdirs. nor does it seem to recursively dig. but i spent a while and there was just too much code to read, so i wrote my own webmail [ http://gitorious.org/element/element/blobs/master/ruby/W/mail.rb ] 
    558 
    559 Hmm, not sure what issue you ran into there. The way it works for me:
    560 everything lands in the inbox at the mail provider, offlineimap pulls it
    561 to my machine, sup indexes it, done.
    562 
    563 > well, TMail is totally broken on 1.9.2, and RMail (as sup uses) and Mail (from TMail's maintainer and now abandoner) is simply way too slow as theyre pure-ruby
    564 > 
    565 > unless you install activeSupport 2.3.x which has a hacked tmail that runson 1.9.x
    566 >
    567 > anyways.. i'm trying to figure out a good permanent solution to this, and it seems to involve rewriting eveyrthing in HAskell..
    568 
    569 Nah, the solution is to rewrite everything in lua :)
    570 -- 
    571 Philipp
    572 
    573 --
    574 "Wir stehen selbst entt?uscht und sehn betroffen / Den Vorhang zu
    575 und alle Fragen offen." Bertolt Brecht, Der gute Mensch von Sezuan
    576 
    577 
    578 From aidecoe@aidecoe.name  Tue Sep  7 05:53:01 2010
    579 From: aidecoe@aidecoe.name (=?utf-8?q?Amadeusz_=C5=BBo=C5=82nowski?=)
    580 Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 11:53:01 +0200
    581 Subject: [sup-talk] sent mail labeling
    582 Message-ID: <1283852052-sup-722@aemeni>
    583 
    584 Hi,
    585 
    586 How sent messages are handled?  What I've observed is that only threads
    587 I've started are labeled as 'sent' and not separate messages I've sent
    588 as a reply to someone's e-mail.
    589 
    590 I've also noticed some strange behaviour.  Sup labels some messages that
    591 I haven't sent/replied in any way as 'sent'.  An example is thread on
    592 sup-talk list: "[sup-talk] Arch Linux sup now failing.", which Sup
    593 labeled as 'sent'.  Should I report it?  What should I include?  I'm
    594 using common maildir for outbox and inbox (does that matter?) and don't
    595 mangle with any other programs than Fetchmail and Sup.
    596 
    597 As a workaround would be nice to have possibility to add/remove 'sent'
    598 label manually.  Is it already possible?  Does it make sense to request
    599 this feature?
    600 
    601 
    602 Cheers,
    603 -- 
    604 Amadeusz ?o?nowski
    605 aka aidecoe
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    615 From ezyang@MIT.EDU  Thu Sep  9 12:56:11 2010
    616 From: ezyang@MIT.EDU (Edward Z. Yang)
    617 Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:56:11 -0400
    618 Subject: [sup-talk] Behavior for sent messages
    619 In-Reply-To: <1281916596-sup-8793@ezyang>
    620 References: <1280546878-sup-5384@ezyang>
    621 	<1280575476-sup-2567@pinkfloyd.chass.utoronto.ca>
    622 	<1280628309-sup-7092@ezyang>
    623 	<1280628833-sup-7698@pinkfloyd.chass.utoronto.ca>
    624 	<1281916596-sup-8793@ezyang>
    625 Message-ID: <1284051347-sup-9359@ezyang>
    626 
    627 Excerpts from Edward Z. Yang's message of Sun Aug 15 19:58:03 -0400 2010:
    628 > I've tracked down the regression to this merge: 45c3433c0 Merge remote branch 'origin/maildir'
    629 > 
    630 > I'd appreciate a quick san-check before I start investigating the merge more
    631 > closely: you can easily test for this bug by renaming your .sup directory away
    632 > and creating a fresh sup directory.
    633 
    634 Hello,
    635 
    636 Has anyone been able to reproduce this bug on the relevant commit?
    637 
    638 Edward
    639 
    640 From badalex@gmail.com  Thu Sep  9 13:24:21 2010
    641 From: badalex@gmail.com (Alex Hunsaker)
    642 Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 11:24:21 -0600
    643 Subject: [sup-talk] sup with ruby 1.9.2 patches (was: Arch Linux sup now
    644 	failing.)
    645 Message-ID: <AANLkTi=EKfpn6wT_eb-8kNDKUB4cDrZ0WqyAJR6yDPuo@mail.gmail.com>
    646 
    647 Here are the 2 patches Im using to get sup to work with ruby 1.9.2
    648 
    649 The first is against ncursesw and fixes the STR2CSTR issues.
    650 The 2nd is against sup and fixes the tmpfile issue when trying to
    651 reply/create a new message or viewing an attachment.
    652 
    653 With both of these I dont have to run to mutt to send mail anymore :-)
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    669 From danielgoldin@gmail.com  Sat Sep 11 12:58:56 2010
    670 From: danielgoldin@gmail.com (Daniel Goldin)
    671 Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 09:58:56 -0700
    672 Subject: [sup-talk] exception
    673 Message-ID: <AANLkTinMOE8fopRLuX1M-5MWAUEGYL9CiUiRJMNxX_r5@mail.gmail.com>
    674 
    675 I got an exception error when reading one of my labels. Any thoughts. I am
    676 not a programmer, so keep it simple, if you will. Exception-log below:
    677 
    678 d.
    679 
    680 --- RuntimeError from thread: load threads for thread-index-mode
    681 DocNotFoundError: Document 2275758200 not found.
    682 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/index.rb:178:in `document'
    683 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/index.rb:178:in
    684 `each_message_in_thread_for'
    685 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/index.rb:178:in `map'
    686 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/index.rb:178:in
    687 `each_message_in_thread_for'
    688 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/thread.rb:341:in
    689 `load_thread_for_message'
    690 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/thread.rb:333:in
    691 `load_n_threads'
    692 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/index.rb:148:in
    693 `each_id_by_date'
    694 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/index.rb:239:in `each_id'
    695 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/index.rb:239:in `each'
    696 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/index.rb:239:in `each_id'
    697 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/index.rb:148:in
    698 `each_id_by_date'
    699 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/thread.rb:328:in
    700 `load_n_threads'
    701 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/modes/thread-index-mode.rb:640:in
    702 `__unprotected_load_n_threads'
    703 (eval):12:in `load_n_threads'
    704 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/modes/thread-index-mode.rb:624:in
    705 `load_n_threads_background'
    706 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup.rb:76:in `reporting_thread'
    707 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup.rb:74:in `initialize'
    708 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup.rb:74:in `new'
    709 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup.rb:74:in `reporting_thread'
    710 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/modes/thread-index-mode.rb:623:in
    711 `load_n_threads_background'
    712 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/modes/thread-index-mode.rb:694:in
    713 `__unprotected_load_threads'
    714 (eval):12:in `load_threads'
    715 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/modes/label-search-results-mode.rb:33:in
    716 `spawn_nicely'
    717 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/modes/label-list-mode.rb:134:in
    718 `select_label'
    719 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/mode.rb:59:in `send'
    720 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/mode.rb:59:in `handle_input'
    721 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/buffer.rb:279:in `handle_input'
    722 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/bin/sup:279
    723 /usr/bin/sup:19:in `load'
    724 /usr/bin/sup:19
    725 
    726 
    727 
    728 -- 
    729 Daniel Goldin
    730 626.817.2462
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    735 From dogsaw@thecyberplains.com  Mon Sep 13 04:50:34 2010
    736 From: dogsaw@thecyberplains.com (Matthew Goodall)
    737 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:50:34 +1200
    738 Subject: [sup-talk] Twitter
    739 Message-ID: <1284356125-sup-5550@ethicsgradient.lan>
    740 
    741 As a part an honest attempt at twitter, and my ongoing quest to put 
    742 everything into sup; I created a twitter client that stores into a 
    743 maildir and sends an email as a tweet.
    744 
    745 I figure someone else might be interested:  
    746 http://github.com/downloads/lionicsheriff/rfc5322/rfc5322-0.4.0.gem
    747 
    748 It provides two binaries: fetchtweet and sendtweet. I'd recommend
    749 running 'fetchtweet --add-account accountname' first to create the
    750 config file.
    751 
    752 There are some examples of using (along with some sup hooks) at
    753 http://github.com/lionicsheriff/rfc5322
    754 
    755 From william.betts@gmail.com  Mon Sep 13 12:02:06 2010
    756 From: william.betts@gmail.com (William Betts)
    757 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 09:02:06 -0700
    758 Subject: [sup-talk] Twitter
    759 In-Reply-To: <1284356125-sup-5550@ethicsgradient.lan>
    760 References: <1284356125-sup-5550@ethicsgradient.lan>
    761 Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Pgr8rpR03Kg5MYS9VvmoCK4h0g+pEy4Nyesqw@mail.gmail.com>
    762 
    763 That's pretty cool. Thank you.
    764 
    765 On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Matthew Goodall
    766 <dogsaw at thecyberplains.com>wrote:
    767 
    768 > As a part an honest attempt at twitter, and my ongoing quest to put
    769 > everything into sup; I created a twitter client that stores into a
    770 > maildir and sends an email as a tweet.
    771 >
    772 > I figure someone else might be interested:
    773 > http://github.com/downloads/lionicsheriff/rfc5322/rfc5322-0.4.0.gem
    774 >
    775 > It provides two binaries: fetchtweet and sendtweet. I'd recommend
    776 > running 'fetchtweet --add-account accountname' first to create the
    777 > config file.
    778 >
    779 > There are some examples of using (along with some sup hooks) at
    780 > http://github.com/lionicsheriff/rfc5322
    781 > _______________________________________________
    782 > sup-talk mailing list
    783 > sup-talk at rubyforge.org
    784 > http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/sup-talk
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    790 From lionel.grenier@gmail.com  Sat Sep 18 01:31:28 2010
    791 From: lionel.grenier@gmail.com (Lionel Grenier)
    792 Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:31:28 +0200
    793 Subject: [sup-talk] Error after Sup installation under Cygwin
    794 Message-ID: <AANLkTimOVjjLqYWs0M-EcOtvKvPKyAggFWNyCTxv_YLd@mail.gmail.com>
    795 
    796 Hello
    797 
    798 I didn't find any post related to this so here it is:
    799 - I've installed Sup in cygwin using gem (gem install sup).
    800 - Installation went very well. no reported error all dependant components
    801 (xapian, ncurses etc..) have been installed all together
    802 - BUT when I run 'sup' I got the following error:
    803 ---------------------------------------------
    804 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/xapian-full-1.1.3.4/lib/_xapian.so: No such file
    805 or
    806 directory - /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/xapian-full-1.1.3.4/lib/_xapian.so
    807 (Load
    808 Error)
    809         from /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
    810 `requi
    811 re'
    812         from
    813 /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/xapian-full-1.1.3.4/lib/xapian.rb:41
    814         from /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
    815 `gem_o
    816 riginal_require'
    817         from /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
    818 `requi
    819 re'
    820         from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/index.rb:3
    821         from /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
    822 `gem_o
    823 riginal_require'
    824         from /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
    825 `requi
    826 re'
    827         from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup.rb:316
    828         from /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
    829 `gem_o
    830 riginal_require'
    831         from /usr/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in
    832 `requi
    833 re'
    834         from /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/bin/sup:15
    835         from /usr/bin/sup:19:in `load'
    836         from /usr/bin/sup:19
    837 ---------------------------------------------
    838 
    839 Looking into the xapian library folder the file _xapian.so exists.
    840 I googled this but didn't find solution, so maybe the sup community may have
    841 the answer.
    842 
    843 Thanks for your help
    844 
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    850 From moritz+sup@wzff.de  Tue Sep 21 13:32:14 2010
    851 From: moritz+sup@wzff.de (Moritz Wilhelmy)
    852 Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:32:14 +0200
    853 Subject: [sup-talk] Quick start for newbies
    854 Message-ID: <20100921173214.GA3808@barfooze.de>
    855 
    856 The first message I wrote (using sup) did not arrive, it seems, so I send it
    857 again with mutt and all the things that might rubyforge think I'm a spammer
    858 censored.
    859 
    860 -- forwarded message --
    861 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8
    862 Subject: Quick start for newbies
    863 From: Moritz Wilhelmy <moritz+sup at wzff.de>
    864 To: sup-talk <sup-talk at rubyforge.org>
    865 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 11:36:38 +0200
    866 Message-Id: <1284974706-sup-6890 at niflheimr>
    867 User-Agent: Sup/0.11
    868 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    869 
    870 Hello all,
    871 
    872 I've installed sup a few days ago and wanted to finally migrate to it
    873 yesterday, so I started with migrating my MH folders to maildirs, since I've
    874 been on nmh before and was hoping to become happy with sup. I was tempted to
    875 try notmuch before, but I'm not an emacs user, and it lacks a sane curses
    876 interface from what I know, so I decided to take a look at sup.
    877 
    878 Then, I tried importing the messages, and I was wondering how to for instance,
    879 import my sentbox and mark it as sent, and mark everything from my old mails as
    880 read, since that's what I did with them.  Importing with the label "Sent" on
    881 the outbox didn't work, since apparently "Sent" (the Label) and "Sent" (the sup
    882 internal whatever that's used for marking mails as sent) are not the same.
    883 
    884 I also tried running sup-sync -a -e on my inbox, but apparently, the imported
    885 mails are not marked as read either.
    886 
    887 Now I'm wondering how to apply something (tag, mark as read, mark as spam) on a
    888 number of messages which is the result of a search, for instance tag everything
    889 with a subject containing VI**RA as spam, or tag everything from a particular
    890 mailbox (outbox maildir) as sent.
    891 
    892 I did read the readme and quickstart guide, but it doesn't say anything about
    893 my kind of problem, although I figure it's very for new sup users.
    894 Furthermore, I think manpages would be really handy, since that's where I look
    895 first.
    896 
    897 Also, is the archive to this list available as mbox file?
    898 
    899 Sup seems overall nice, I like it that far. The tagging system is a good idea,
    900 I figure.
    901 
    902 Kind regards and thanks in advance,
    903 
    904 Moritz
    905 
    906 From stipredirect@gmail.com  Wed Sep 22 14:18:30 2010
    907 From: stipredirect@gmail.com (Michael Stipicevic)
    908 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:18:30 -0400
    909 Subject: [sup-talk] archive all messages before a certain date?
    910 Message-ID: <AANLkTin8H1hWi6pmpGErBwey+kHefnUa2ZtS9+gbgyYz@mail.gmail.com>
    911 
    912 I'm not sure if this is on the web anywhere (I've tried a few searches and
    913 not much came up): what is the most straightforward way to archive all
    914 messages before a certain date? I just loaded up a huge mail store and want
    915 to archive everything before, say, March this year. I've tried various
    916 combinations of chronic commands and the 'g' to tag threads but I'm not
    917 getting anywhere. Also, sup seems built to *toggle* threads rather than
    918 force them to a certain state (+inbox or -inbox). Any ideas?
    919 
    920 Thanks,
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    926 From ezyang@MIT.EDU  Wed Sep 22 14:35:20 2010
    927 From: ezyang@MIT.EDU (Edward Z. Yang)
    928 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:35:20 -0400
    929 Subject: [sup-talk] archive all messages before a certain date?
    930 In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin8H1hWi6pmpGErBwey+kHefnUa2ZtS9+gbgyYz@mail.gmail.com>
    931 References: <AANLkTin8H1hWi6pmpGErBwey+kHefnUa2ZtS9+gbgyYz@mail.gmail.com>
    932 Message-ID: <1285180485-sup-7603@ezyang>
    933 
    934 Excerpts from Michael Stipicevic's message of Wed Sep 22 14:18:30 -0400 2010:
    935 > I'm not sure if this is on the web anywhere (I've tried a few searches and
    936 > not much came up): what is the most straightforward way to archive all
    937 > messages before a certain date? I just loaded up a huge mail store and want
    938 > to archive everything before, say, March this year. I've tried various
    939 > combinations of chronic commands and the 'g' to tag threads but I'm not
    940 > getting anywhere. Also, sup seems built to *toggle* threads rather than
    941 > force them to a certain state (+inbox or -inbox). Any ideas?
    942 
    943 The best strategy I've found is to dump the inbox, do a manual search replace
    944 on the appropriate range of the inbox tag, and then load it back up again.
    945 
    946 Edward
    947 
    948 From marka@pobox.com  Wed Sep 22 14:50:32 2010
    949 From: marka@pobox.com (Mark Alexander)
    950 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 11:50:32 -0700
    951 Subject: [sup-talk] archive all messages before a certain date?
    952 In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin8H1hWi6pmpGErBwey+kHefnUa2ZtS9+gbgyYz@mail.gmail.com>
    953 References: <AANLkTin8H1hWi6pmpGErBwey+kHefnUa2ZtS9+gbgyYz@mail.gmail.com>
    954 Message-ID: <1285181337-sup-1150@x41>
    955 
    956 Excerpts from Michael Stipicevic's message of Wed Sep 22 11:18:30 -0700 2010:
    957 > what is the most straightforward way to archive all
    958 > messages before a certain date?
    959 
    960 I believe that sup-tweak-labels is the thing you want to use.
    961 It's been a long time since I tried it but I do recall
    962 I was able to do what you're trying to do.  Make sure
    963 you use --dry-run first to make sure you don't wreck
    964 things.
    965 
    966 
    967 From stipredirect@gmail.com  Wed Sep 22 14:53:47 2010
    968 From: stipredirect@gmail.com (Michael Stipicevic)
    969 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:53:47 -0400
    970 Subject: [sup-talk] archive all messages before a certain date?
    971 In-Reply-To: <1285181337-sup-1150@x41>
    972 References: <AANLkTin8H1hWi6pmpGErBwey+kHefnUa2ZtS9+gbgyYz@mail.gmail.com>
    973 	<1285181337-sup-1150@x41>
    974 Message-ID: <AANLkTimAoY8wSa9SxWcZMgG6R9wO_sN0xVLKZ6bAa=zn@mail.gmail.com>
    975 
    976 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Mark Alexander <marka at pobox.com> wrote:
    977 
    978 > I believe that sup-tweak-labels is the thing you want to use.
    979 > It's been a long time since I tried it but I do recall
    980 > I was able to do what you're trying to do.  Make sure
    981 > you use --dry-run first to make sure you don't wreck
    982 > things.
    983 >
    984 
    985 Thanks guys, I'll try this out.
    986 
    987 - Mike
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    992 From dogsaw@thecyberplains.com  Thu Sep 23 13:26:36 2010
    993 From: dogsaw@thecyberplains.com (Matthew Goodall)
    994 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 05:26:36 +1200
    995 Subject: [sup-talk] Twitter - new release
    996 In-Reply-To: <1284356125-sup-5550@ethicsgradient.lan>
    997 References: <1284356125-sup-5550@ethicsgradient.lan>
    998 Message-ID: <1285262666-sup-1123@ethicsgradient.lan>
    999 
   1000 I have released a new version: 
   1001 http://github.com/downloads/lionicsheriff/rfc5322/rfc5322-1.0.1.gem
   1002 
   1003 Features:
   1004 + attached images and videos are uploaded to yfrog & url is appended to
   1005   tweet
   1006 + long urls are automatically shortened
   1007 + --pastebin option in sendtweet uploads unused parts of body to
   1008   pastebin. Again urls are appended
   1009 + long tweets are sent to tweetshrink.com before rejecting them
   1010 
   1011 Documentation at: http://github.com/lionicsheriff/rfc5322
   1012 
   1013 Note for upgraders:
   1014 The config file has been renamed ~/.rfc5322.rc and a couple keys have
   1015 been renamed:
   1016     :oauth_token: -> :access_key: 
   1017     :oauth_token_secret: -> :access_secret:
   1018 
   1019 I did a complete rewrite since the previous attempt reflected my recent
   1020 stint in shell programming and would be very hard to maintain.
   1021 
   1022 From lists@syshex.com  Fri Sep 24 05:34:45 2010
   1023 From: lists@syshex.com (=?utf-8?q?Jo=C3=A3o_Taveira_Ara=C3=BAjo?=)
   1024 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 10:34:45 +0100
   1025 Subject: [sup-talk] Twitter - new release
   1026 In-Reply-To: <1285262666-sup-1123@ethicsgradient.lan>
   1027 References: <1284356125-sup-5550@ethicsgradient.lan>
   1028 	<1285262666-sup-1123@ethicsgradient.lan>
   1029 Message-ID: <1285319574-sup-2845@dhcp-87-233.eduroam.ucl.ac.uk>
   1030 
   1031 Excellent, this is potentially really useful, although I think we'll end up needing a twitter mode for sup to handle this properly. I might get round to having a crack at it myself if I get the time, but I haven't really looked into Ruby or sup internals properly.
   1032 
   1033 Excerpts from Matthew Goodall's message of Thu Sep 23 18:26:36 +0100 2010:
   1034 > I have released a new version: 
   1035 > http://github.com/downloads/lionicsheriff/rfc5322/rfc5322-1.0.1.gem
   1036 > 
   1037 > Features:
   1038 > + attached images and videos are uploaded to yfrog & url is appended to
   1039 >   tweet
   1040 > + long urls are automatically shortened
   1041 > + --pastebin option in sendtweet uploads unused parts of body to
   1042 >   pastebin. Again urls are appended
   1043 > + long tweets are sent to tweetshrink.com before rejecting them
   1044 > 
   1045 > Documentation at: http://github.com/lionicsheriff/rfc5322
   1046 
   1047 I think the name is terrible. I'm not familiar with that RFC, but I'm pretty sure it's not twitter specific, which "fetchtweet" and "sendtweet" imply. Having a .fetchtweetrc fits in a lot better alongside .fetchmailrc too. +1 if the config options are similar too.
   1048 
   1049 Cheers,
   1050 Joao.
   1051 
   1052 From dogsaw@thecyberplains.com  Fri Sep 24 18:45:20 2010
   1053 From: dogsaw@thecyberplains.com (Matthew Goodall)
   1054 Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:45:20 +1200
   1055 Subject: [sup-talk] Twitter - new release
   1056 In-Reply-To: <1285319574-sup-2845@dhcp-87-233.eduroam.ucl.ac.uk>
   1057 References: <1284356125-sup-5550@ethicsgradient.lan>
   1058 	<1285262666-sup-1123@ethicsgradient.lan>
   1059 	<1285319574-sup-2845@dhcp-87-233.eduroam.ucl.ac.uk>
   1060 Message-ID: <1285364787-sup-7922@ethicsgradient.lan>
   1061 
   1062 Excerpts from Jo?o Taveira Ara?jo's message of Fri Sep 24 21:34:45 +1200 2010:
   1063 > Excellent, this is potentially really useful, although I think we'll end up needing a twitter mode for sup to handle this properly. I might get round to having a crack at it myself if I get the time, but I haven't really looked into Ruby or sup internals properly.
   1064 Yeah we probably would need a real mode. It turns out that Twitter is a
   1065 little more fast paced than email.
   1066 
   1067 As it stands, if you have a particularly active stream you are best 
   1068 off auto-archiving and filtering mentions into your inbox. That is 
   1069 just speculation though, I am hardly following anyone, so it is all
   1070 easily manageable from the inbox.
   1071 
   1072 > I think the name is terrible. I'm not familiar with that RFC, but I'm pretty sure it's not twitter specific, which "fetchtweet" and "sendtweet" imply. 
   1073 It's the spec for email messages. Personally, I'm unsure about it.
   1074 I enjoy the 'via rfc5322' you see on the web interface, but it seems to
   1075 me the name would be better served by an email parsing library.
   1076 
   1077 Incidentally the new interface, the so-called #newtwitter, doesn't 
   1078 readily show the source of the tweet any more (you have to click on it).
   1079 
   1080 >Having a .fetchtweetrc fits in a lot better alongside .fetchmailrc too.
   1081 I like the .fetchtweetrc, it links the rc to the tools better. Both
   1082 tools use the same config file though, so maybe I could make it accept
   1083 .fetchtweetrc and .sendtweetrc with .fetchtweetrc having precedence.
   1084 
   1085 >+1 if the config options are similar too.
   1086 That would be interesting, been a long while since I have looked at them
   1087 though. I use getmail and offlineimap.
   1088