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I have been using sup off and on for more than 8 years and in the mean time I have tried many others like mutt, mu4e, notmuch etc, but I keep coming back to sup as it simply works best for the way I like doing email. I am sending this follow up to the mailing list in the hope that there is additional interest in discussion about sup and the various linux distributions. When I first started using sup it was not available via Arch Linux, so I found it easier (mostly because of my own lack of programming knowledge...) to install into Lubuntu and later Debian. More recently I have been using Arch Linux so I checked the ArchWiki and was pleased to see sup there! But, because of the problem that sup works only on ruby 2.3.3 and Arch uses a newer version of ruby, one has to use a workaround that is thankfully fully described on the Sup-ArchWiki which then directs you to the RVM-ArchWiki with good instructions for installing RVM and then sup. This RVM workaround is referred to in the Sup-ArchWiki as a temporary install, and I discovered why; one of the draw backs is that after some linux kernel updates sup stops working and an alias needs to be added to ~/.bashrc again. This is why when you mentioned in your item (4) "Collaborate with major downstream packagers"; I thought it would be great if you included Arch Linux in this group as I believe sup fits in perfectly with the Arch Linux philosophy, one item of which is minimal bloat. I am currently using sup on Arch Linux with the i3 tiling window manager which I really enjoy; cutting edge and bloat free, although I still have to find the time to sort out some sup hooks. I believe many other dedicated sup users would find this sort of set up very satisfying!! So, thanks again Iain Cheers Willem --------------A7A0666737DB1385F8A8424E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Iain (and all sup fans)

In our recent communication I expressed my great appreciation when I heard that my favorite email client has been rescued from a sad extinction. I have been using sup off and on for more than 8 years and in the mean time I have tried many others like mutt, mu4e, notmuch etc, but I keep coming back to sup as it simply works best for the way I like doing email.

I am sending this follow up to the mailing list in the hope that there is additional interest in discussion about sup and the various linux distributions.

When I first started using sup it was not available via Arch Linux, so I found it easier (mostly because of my own lack of programming knowledge...) to install into Lubuntu and later Debian. More recently I have been using Arch Linux so I checked the ArchWiki and was pleased to see sup there!

But, because of the problem that sup works only on ruby 2.3.3 and Arch uses a newer version of ruby, one has to use a workaround that is thankfully fully described on the Sup-ArchWiki which then directs you to the RVM-ArchWiki with good instructions for installing RVM and then sup.

This RVM workaround is referred to in the Sup-ArchWiki as a temporary install, and I discovered why; one of the draw backs is that after some linux kernel updates sup stops working and an alias needs to be added to ~/.bashrc again.

This is why when you mentioned in your item (4) "Collaborate with major downstream packagers"; I thought it would be great if you included Arch Linux in this group as I believe sup fits in perfectly with the Arch Linux philosophy, one item of which is minimal bloat. I am currently using sup on Arch Linux with the i3 tiling window manager which I really enjoy; cutting edge and bloat free, although I still have to find the time to sort out some sup hooks.

I believe many other dedicated sup users would find this sort of set up very satisfying!!

So, thanks again Iain
Cheers
Willem --------------A7A0666737DB1385F8A8424E--