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Cheers Willem On 6/23/20 9:31 PM, Iain Parris wrote: > Hi Willem, > > Excerpts from Willem's message of 2020-06-23 11:12:50 +0200: >> In our recent communication I expressed my great appreciation when I >> heard that my favorite email client has been rescued from a sad >> extinction. I have been using sup off and on for more than 8 years and >> in the mean time I have tried many others like mutt, mu4e, notmuch etc, >> but I keep coming back to sup as it simply works best for the way I like >> doing email. >> >> I am sending this follow up to the mailing list in the hope that there >> is additional interest in discussion about sup and the various linux >> distributions. > Thank you very much again for emailing, and for kicking off the > discussion about distributions / platforms. It's great to hear from > another happy sup user. I am exactly the same - I keep coming back to > sup. :-) > >> But, because of the problem that sup works only on ruby 2.3.3 and Arch >> uses a newer version of ruby, one has to use a workaround that is >> thankfully fully described on the Sup-ArchWiki which then directs you to >> the RVM-ArchWiki with good instructions for installing RVM and then sup. >> >> This RVM workaround is referred to in the Sup-ArchWiki as a temporary >> install, and I discovered why; one of the draw backs is that after some >> linux kernel updates sup stops working and an alias needs to be added to >> ~/.bashrc again. > The ArchWiki documentation is very good, and has often helped me in the > past because it is regularly widely applicable and clear documentation, > even for users like me of other Linux distributions. > > The key patch required for sup to run on later Ruby versions is > > - credit to Dan. > > This patch will be included in the upcoming next sup release, but in the > meantime I've checked on Arch Linux in a VM, and found a method to apply > the patch and run sup successfully using system Ruby. > > Pending the next sup release, I've updated ArchWiki right now with the > new workaround instructions for Arch Linux - and hope that it helps you, > and possibly others too! > > > > Please do let me know if that works for you. > >> This is why when you mentioned in your item (4) "Collaborate with major >> downstream packagers"; I thought it would be great if you included Arch >> Linux in this group as I believe sup fits in perfectly with the Arch >> Linux philosophy, one item of which is minimal bloat. I am currently >> using sup on Arch Linux with the i3 tiling window manager which I really >> enjoy; cutting edge and bloat free, although I still have to find the >> time to sort out some sup hooks. > Sounds good - I'll add Arch Linux to my mental list of distributions. > > I also have a note on my to-do list to update the sup wiki > with recent installation > instructions for various platforms. > > Does anyone else reading have any requests for other distribution or > platform? So far on my mental list is Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch, > ?MacPorts. > > Kind regards, > Iain --------------3441F1AE0B15EAF1876A8F41 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Iain

I have just updated my sup installation following your revised Sup-ArchWiki Option 1 with the Patch 55f6b77, and I am happy to say that it worked perfectly; I am now running smoothly with current system Ruby - thanks!!

Cheers
Willem



On 6/23/20 9:31 PM, Iain Parris wrote:
Hi Willem,

Excerpts from Willem's message of 2020-06-23 11:12:50 +0200:

In our recent communication I expressed my great appreciation when I 
heard that my favorite email client has been rescued from a sad 
extinction. I have been using sup off and on for more than 8 years and 
in the mean time I have tried many others like mutt, mu4e, notmuch etc, 
but I keep coming back to sup as it simply works best for the way I like 
doing email.

I am sending this follow up to the mailing list in the hope that there 
is additional interest in discussion about sup and the various linux 
distributions.

Thank you very much again for emailing, and for kicking off the
discussion about distributions / platforms. It's great to hear from
another happy sup user. I am exactly the same - I keep coming back to
sup. :-)


But, because of the problem that sup works only on ruby 2.3.3 and Arch 
uses a newer version of ruby, one has to use a workaround that is 
thankfully fully described on the Sup-ArchWiki which then directs you to 
the RVM-ArchWiki with good instructions for installing RVM and then sup.

This RVM workaround is referred to in the Sup-ArchWiki as a temporary 
install, and I discovered why; one of the draw backs is that after some 
linux kernel updates sup stops working and an alias needs to be added to 
~/.bashrc again.

The ArchWiki documentation is very good, and has often helped me in the
past because it is regularly widely applicable and clear documentation,
even for users like me of other Linux distributions.

The key patch required for sup to run on later Ruby versions is
<https://github.com/sup-heliotrope/sup/commit/55f6b77ab6327495241e3c2ced6e33cb6ee8dd35>
- credit to Dan.

This patch will be included in the upcoming next sup release, but in the
meantime I've checked on Arch Linux in a VM, and found a method to apply
the patch and run sup successfully using system Ruby.

Pending the next sup release, I've updated ArchWiki right now with the
new workaround instructions for Arch Linux - and hope that it helps you,
and possibly others too!

<https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sup#Option_1_(recommended):_RubyGems_with_current_system_Ruby>

Please do let me know if that works for you.


This is why when you mentioned in your item (4) "Collaborate with major 
downstream packagers"; I thought it would be great if you included Arch 
Linux in this group as I believe sup fits in perfectly with the Arch 
Linux philosophy, one item of which is minimal bloat. I am currently 
using sup on Arch Linux with the i3 tiling window manager which I really 
enjoy; cutting edge and bloat free, although I still have to find the 
time to sort out some sup hooks.

Sounds good - I'll add Arch Linux to my mental list of distributions.

I also have a note on my to-do list to update the sup wiki
<https://github.com/sup-heliotrope/sup/wiki> with recent installation
instructions for various platforms.

Does anyone else reading have any requests for other distribution or
platform? So far on my mental list is Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch,
?MacPorts.

Kind regards,
Iain

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