* [sup] Re: sup is up
@ 2020-06-23 9:12 Willem
2020-06-23 19:31 ` Iain Parris
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From: Willem @ 2020-06-23 9:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: supmua; +Cc: Iain Parris, Dan Callaghan
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Hi Iain (and all sup fans)
In our recent communication I expressed my great appreciation when I
heard that my favorite email client has been rescued from a sad
extinction. I have been using sup off and on for more than 8 years and
in the mean time I have tried many others like mutt, mu4e, notmuch etc,
but I keep coming back to sup as it simply works best for the way I like
doing email.
I am sending this follow up to the mailing list in the hope that there
is additional interest in discussion about sup and the various linux
distributions.
When I first started using sup it was not available via Arch Linux, so I
found it easier (mostly because of my own lack of programming
knowledge...) to install into Lubuntu and later Debian. More recently I
have been using Arch Linux so I checked the ArchWiki and was pleased to
see sup there!
But, because of the problem that sup works only on ruby 2.3.3 and Arch
uses a newer version of ruby, one has to use a workaround that is
thankfully fully described on the Sup-ArchWiki which then directs you to
the RVM-ArchWiki with good instructions for installing RVM and then sup.
This RVM workaround is referred to in the Sup-ArchWiki as a temporary
install, and I discovered why; one of the draw backs is that after some
linux kernel updates sup stops working and an alias needs to be added to
~/.bashrc again.
This is why when you mentioned in your item (4) "Collaborate with major
downstream packagers"; I thought it would be great if you included Arch
Linux in this group as I believe sup fits in perfectly with the Arch
Linux philosophy, one item of which is minimal bloat. I am currently
using sup on Arch Linux with the i3 tiling window manager which I really
enjoy; cutting edge and bloat free, although I still have to find the
time to sort out some sup hooks.
I believe many other dedicated sup users would find this sort of set up
very satisfying!!
So, thanks again Iain
Cheers
Willem
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* Re: [sup] Re: sup is up
2020-06-23 9:12 [sup] Re: sup is up Willem
@ 2020-06-23 19:31 ` Iain Parris
2020-06-24 11:29 ` Willem
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Iain Parris @ 2020-06-23 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Willem; +Cc: supmua
Hi Willem,
Excerpts from Willem's message of 2020-06-23 11:12:50 +0200:
> In our recent communication I expressed my great appreciation when I
> heard that my favorite email client has been rescued from a sad
> extinction. I have been using sup off and on for more than 8 years and
> in the mean time I have tried many others like mutt, mu4e, notmuch etc,
> but I keep coming back to sup as it simply works best for the way I like
> doing email.
>
> I am sending this follow up to the mailing list in the hope that there
> is additional interest in discussion about sup and the various linux
> distributions.
Thank you very much again for emailing, and for kicking off the
discussion about distributions / platforms. It's great to hear from
another happy sup user. I am exactly the same - I keep coming back to
sup. :-)
> But, because of the problem that sup works only on ruby 2.3.3 and Arch
> uses a newer version of ruby, one has to use a workaround that is
> thankfully fully described on the Sup-ArchWiki which then directs you to
> the RVM-ArchWiki with good instructions for installing RVM and then sup.
>
> This RVM workaround is referred to in the Sup-ArchWiki as a temporary
> install, and I discovered why; one of the draw backs is that after some
> linux kernel updates sup stops working and an alias needs to be added to
> ~/.bashrc again.
The ArchWiki documentation is very good, and has often helped me in the
past because it is regularly widely applicable and clear documentation,
even for users like me of other Linux distributions.
The key patch required for sup to run on later Ruby versions is
<https://github.com/sup-heliotrope/sup/commit/55f6b77ab6327495241e3c2ced6e33cb6ee8dd35>
- credit to Dan.
This patch will be included in the upcoming next sup release, but in the
meantime I've checked on Arch Linux in a VM, and found a method to apply
the patch and run sup successfully using system Ruby.
Pending the next sup release, I've updated ArchWiki right now with the
new workaround instructions for Arch Linux - and hope that it helps you,
and possibly others too!
<https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sup#Option_1_(recommended):_RubyGems_with_current_system_Ruby>
Please do let me know if that works for you.
> This is why when you mentioned in your item (4) "Collaborate with major
> downstream packagers"; I thought it would be great if you included Arch
> Linux in this group as I believe sup fits in perfectly with the Arch
> Linux philosophy, one item of which is minimal bloat. I am currently
> using sup on Arch Linux with the i3 tiling window manager which I really
> enjoy; cutting edge and bloat free, although I still have to find the
> time to sort out some sup hooks.
Sounds good - I'll add Arch Linux to my mental list of distributions.
I also have a note on my to-do list to update the sup wiki
<https://github.com/sup-heliotrope/sup/wiki> with recent installation
instructions for various platforms.
Does anyone else reading have any requests for other distribution or
platform? So far on my mental list is Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch,
?MacPorts.
Kind regards,
Iain
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* Re: [sup] Re: sup is up
2020-06-23 19:31 ` Iain Parris
@ 2020-06-24 11:29 ` Willem
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Willem @ 2020-06-24 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Iain Parris; +Cc: supmua
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Hi Iain
I have just updated my sup installation following your revised
Sup-ArchWiki Option 1 with the Patch 55f6b77, and I am happy to say that
it worked perfectly; I am now running smoothly with current system Ruby
- thanks!!
Cheers
Willem
On 6/23/20 9:31 PM, Iain Parris wrote:
> Hi Willem,
>
> Excerpts from Willem's message of 2020-06-23 11:12:50 +0200:
>> In our recent communication I expressed my great appreciation when I
>> heard that my favorite email client has been rescued from a sad
>> extinction. I have been using sup off and on for more than 8 years and
>> in the mean time I have tried many others like mutt, mu4e, notmuch etc,
>> but I keep coming back to sup as it simply works best for the way I like
>> doing email.
>>
>> I am sending this follow up to the mailing list in the hope that there
>> is additional interest in discussion about sup and the various linux
>> distributions.
> Thank you very much again for emailing, and for kicking off the
> discussion about distributions / platforms. It's great to hear from
> another happy sup user. I am exactly the same - I keep coming back to
> sup. :-)
>
>> But, because of the problem that sup works only on ruby 2.3.3 and Arch
>> uses a newer version of ruby, one has to use a workaround that is
>> thankfully fully described on the Sup-ArchWiki which then directs you to
>> the RVM-ArchWiki with good instructions for installing RVM and then sup.
>>
>> This RVM workaround is referred to in the Sup-ArchWiki as a temporary
>> install, and I discovered why; one of the draw backs is that after some
>> linux kernel updates sup stops working and an alias needs to be added to
>> ~/.bashrc again.
> The ArchWiki documentation is very good, and has often helped me in the
> past because it is regularly widely applicable and clear documentation,
> even for users like me of other Linux distributions.
>
> The key patch required for sup to run on later Ruby versions is
> <https://github.com/sup-heliotrope/sup/commit/55f6b77ab6327495241e3c2ced6e33cb6ee8dd35>
> - credit to Dan.
>
> This patch will be included in the upcoming next sup release, but in the
> meantime I've checked on Arch Linux in a VM, and found a method to apply
> the patch and run sup successfully using system Ruby.
>
> Pending the next sup release, I've updated ArchWiki right now with the
> new workaround instructions for Arch Linux - and hope that it helps you,
> and possibly others too!
>
> <https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sup#Option_1_(recommended):_RubyGems_with_current_system_Ruby>
>
> Please do let me know if that works for you.
>
>> This is why when you mentioned in your item (4) "Collaborate with major
>> downstream packagers"; I thought it would be great if you included Arch
>> Linux in this group as I believe sup fits in perfectly with the Arch
>> Linux philosophy, one item of which is minimal bloat. I am currently
>> using sup on Arch Linux with the i3 tiling window manager which I really
>> enjoy; cutting edge and bloat free, although I still have to find the
>> time to sort out some sup hooks.
> Sounds good - I'll add Arch Linux to my mental list of distributions.
>
> I also have a note on my to-do list to update the sup wiki
> <https://github.com/sup-heliotrope/sup/wiki> with recent installation
> instructions for various platforms.
>
> Does anyone else reading have any requests for other distribution or
> platform? So far on my mental list is Debian, Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch,
> ?MacPorts.
>
> Kind regards,
> Iain
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* Re: [sup] Re: sup is up
2020-06-21 8:51 ` [sup] " Matthieu Rakotojaona
@ 2020-06-21 12:48 ` Iain Parris
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Iain Parris @ 2020-06-21 12:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthieu Rakotojaona; +Cc: supmua
Excerpts from Matthieu Rakotojaona's message of 2020-06-21 10:51:50 +0200:
> Hey everyone !
>
> I'm very glad to see sup being taken care of again! I'll admit I haven't
> been the most active, but it's nice to see this project I hold dear be
> maintained again. Thanks for what you are doing !
Thank you Matthieu, it's great to hear from you, and a big thank you to
you as well for the years of being co-maintainer alongside Gaute! I
remember your mailing list posts from 5+ years ago, and I really
appreciate your looking after sup in the past, and am glad that you are
pleased with us helping out now with maintenance. :-)
Kind regards,
Iain
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* Re: [sup] Re: sup is up
2020-06-16 7:31 ` Dan Callaghan
@ 2020-06-21 8:51 ` Matthieu Rakotojaona
2020-06-21 12:48 ` Iain Parris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Matthieu Rakotojaona @ 2020-06-21 8:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Callaghan; +Cc: Iain Parris, supmua, Gaute Hope
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Hey everyone !
I'm very glad to see sup being taken care of again! I'll admit I haven't
been the most active, but it's nice to see this project I hold dear be
maintained again. Thanks for what you are doing !
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:31 AM Dan Callaghan <djc@djc.id.au> wrote:
> Excerpts from Iain Parris's message of 2020-06-14 23:08:31 +01:00:
> > Dan, Gaute - I hope I have accurately summarised our conversations.
> > Would you like to add anything? :-)
>
> Nothing to add, other than a big thanks to you Iain for kicking off this
> process, and I look forward to publishing a new sup release with lots of
> good fixes soon.
>
> --
> Dan Callaghan <djc@djc.id.au>
>
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>
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