* sup is up
@ 2020-06-14 22:08 Iain Parris
2020-06-15 6:57 ` Gaute Hope
2020-06-16 7:31 ` Dan Callaghan
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From: Iain Parris @ 2020-06-14 22:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: supmua; +Cc: Dan Callaghan, Gaute Hope
Greetings fellow Suppers,
tl;dr - sup had become inactive and unmaintained. But it still has kept
a cult following of delighted users over the years (source: I am one!),
and it is now going to be maintained again.
This mailing list has been inactive for a long time.
<supmua@googlegroups.com> for the "sup" mail client,
<https://sup-heliotrope.github.io/>.
I would first like to say a huge thank you to all of the sup
contributors over the years, and in particular special thanks to William
Morgan (original creator) and Gaute Hope (took over most maintenance in
2013, though now has a focus on notmuch/astroid - different email client
ecosystem, and all originally inspired by sup).
I am a long-time very happy sup user. It has been my primary mail client
for over 11 years.
I found out a few days ago that sup was no longer being maintained,
after spotting that the "sup-mail" package had disappeared in the latest
Ubuntu release (focal, 20.04 LTS).
I contacted Gaute Hope (@gauteh on GitHub, previous maintainer) and Dan
Callaghan (@danc86 on GitHub, owner of the most recently active sup fork
on GitHub).
After discovering each other and realising we aren't the only people
interested in keeping sup going, Dan and I have volunteered to maintain
sup once more, and Gaute has very kindly facilitated passing on the
baton. A huge *thank you* again to both of you, Dan and Gaute.
To be upfront about goals, however: Dan & I are looking to be extremely
conservative with respect to new features. We are interested in fixing
what's broken, and keeping it fixed, rather than adding new features.
This is because we are both long-time very happy users with the existing
feature set. We aren't presently seeking new feature development, or to
accept PRs for new features.
The current tentative plan is:
(0) Fix failing Travis CI build. Done. The build is now green again
for the first time in five years, and sup has its first recent commits:
<https://github.com/sup-heliotrope/sup/commits/develop>.
(1) Incrementally modernise the build. Likely to require applying
incremental code fixes. For example, we would like to officially
support all current Ruby versions (2.5, 2.6, 2.7). See:
<https://github.com/sup-heliotrope/sup/issues/552>.
(2) Update documentation, e.g., to remove the "no longer maintained"
notice, fix broken links, and provide up-to-date installation
information for the most common distributions.
(3) Create a new 0.23 release of sup - the first release since
0.22.1 five years ago (2015-06-18). To be released on GitHub and
published as a new version of the "sup" Ruby gem,
<https://rubygems.org/gems/sup>.
(4) Collaborate with major downstream packagers, for example perhaps
(not a definitive list):
- Debian & Ubuntu (apt)
- Fedora (yum)
- MacPorts?
Interested? Comments? Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions? It would be
*wonderful* to hear from you all. I'm sure there are many other happy
users out there, and this list is for the community as well as for
development. :-)
Do feel free to reply here on this mailing list, and/or to contribute in
any other way (pull requests, GitHub issues, or any other way!).
Dan, Gaute - I hope I have accurately summarised our conversations.
Would you like to add anything? :-)
Brief pointers:
- sup on GitHub: <https://github.com/sup-heliotrope/sup>
- This mailing list: <supmua@googlegroups.com>
- Mailing list archives: <https://groups.google.com/d/forum/supmua>
- Dan Callaghan <djc@djc.id.au>, @danc86 <https://github.com/danc86>
- Iain Parris <ipv2.lst@parris.org>, @IPv2 <https://github.com/IPv2>
(Admin info: Gaute has now setup Dan with access to sup on GitHub, the
sup gem on RubyGems, and this mailing list.)
Kind regards,
Iain
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* Re: sup is up
2020-06-14 22:08 sup is up Iain Parris
@ 2020-06-15 6:57 ` Gaute Hope
2020-06-16 7:31 ` Dan Callaghan
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From: Gaute Hope @ 2020-06-15 6:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Iain Parris, supmua; +Cc: Dan Callaghan
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Iain Parris writes on June 15, 2020 0:08:
> Dan, Gaute - I hope I have accurately summarised our conversations.
> Would you like to add anything? :-)
Not that I can think of. Thanks, both, for picking Sup up!
Regards, Gaute
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* Re: sup is up
2020-06-14 22:08 sup is up Iain Parris
2020-06-15 6:57 ` Gaute Hope
@ 2020-06-16 7:31 ` Dan Callaghan
2020-06-21 8:51 ` [sup] " Matthieu Rakotojaona
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From: Dan Callaghan @ 2020-06-16 7:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Iain Parris; +Cc: supmua, Gaute Hope
Excerpts from Iain Parris's message of 2020-06-14 23:08:31 +01:00:
> Dan, Gaute - I hope I have accurately summarised our conversations.
> Would you like to add anything? :-)
Nothing to add, other than a big thanks to you Iain for kicking off this
process, and I look forward to publishing a new sup release with lots of
good fixes soon.
--
Dan Callaghan <djc@djc.id.au>
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* Re: [sup] Re: sup is up
2020-06-16 7:31 ` Dan Callaghan
@ 2020-06-21 8:51 ` Matthieu Rakotojaona
2020-06-21 12:48 ` Iain Parris
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From: Matthieu Rakotojaona @ 2020-06-21 8:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dan Callaghan; +Cc: Iain Parris, supmua, Gaute Hope
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Hey everyone !
I'm very glad to see sup being taken care of again! I'll admit I haven't
been the most active, but it's nice to see this project I hold dear be
maintained again. Thanks for what you are doing !
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:31 AM Dan Callaghan <djc@djc.id.au> wrote:
> Excerpts from Iain Parris's message of 2020-06-14 23:08:31 +01:00:
> > Dan, Gaute - I hope I have accurately summarised our conversations.
> > Would you like to add anything? :-)
>
> Nothing to add, other than a big thanks to you Iain for kicking off this
> process, and I look forward to publishing a new sup release with lots of
> good fixes soon.
>
> --
> Dan Callaghan <djc@djc.id.au>
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Matthieu RAKOTOJAONA
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* Re: [sup] Re: sup is up
2020-06-21 8:51 ` [sup] " Matthieu Rakotojaona
@ 2020-06-21 12:48 ` Iain Parris
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From: Iain Parris @ 2020-06-21 12:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matthieu Rakotojaona; +Cc: supmua
Excerpts from Matthieu Rakotojaona's message of 2020-06-21 10:51:50 +0200:
> Hey everyone !
>
> I'm very glad to see sup being taken care of again! I'll admit I haven't
> been the most active, but it's nice to see this project I hold dear be
> maintained again. Thanks for what you are doing !
Thank you Matthieu, it's great to hear from you, and a big thank you to
you as well for the years of being co-maintainer alongside Gaute! I
remember your mailing list posts from 5+ years ago, and I really
appreciate your looking after sup in the past, and am glad that you are
pleased with us helping out now with maintenance. :-)
Kind regards,
Iain
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