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[212.227.126.130]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id y6si174787wrh.5.2020.07.09.12.01.05 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 09 Jul 2020 12:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 212.227.126.130 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of robert.winkler@bioprocess.org) client-ip=212.227.126.130; Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 212.227.126.130 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of robert.winkler@bioprocess.org) smtp.mailfrom=robert.winkler@bioprocess.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Received: from localhost ([177.248.130.232]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue009 [213.165.67.97]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Ml6i4-1kcny00eXE-00lSJS; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 21:01:04 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 From: Robert Winkler To: Iain Parris Cc: supmua Subject: Re: [sup] Sup Autogenerated Fake Sender In-reply-to: <1594316951-sup-6796@ceres> References: <3f5174fe-8cd1-4fb9-95ce-2691c0809f42o@googlegroups.com> <1594316951-sup-6796@ceres> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 14:01:01 -0500 Message-Id: <1594320920-sup-9158@rob-Lenovo-Y720-15IKB> User-Agent: Sup/git Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:k9h+juKni6HzIiro7Zr1OqFplKh2Fob9nqYiXk0S1N9uDhk81eo /to/auUkcVljD48J1exSeB3MJoACVENuLXTiE7H8in8Yi7Bv28bus7DYtF90mIWC4GPSMxR JMKLsz9nn77wbtPhuLd4fvcYmmkFUgQoYLOqMQ//zzVI0AU8ngiNFbm276tmQXGPMyf7m8A PhpTQjvaovsPFjp6ClBXg== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:yY9BKweKovg=:0gMznZkdMbiMtGM/BL+5ZG Edqii5YSSjxAFzLQpxgDpi25/53uIb0ZqFCu/eKHkLHBt9/w2l8S1JO30IdYGNd41STpkY/2x 2vY0/z+AiDhZOJg7CY7DTCLZ85YNB63dJ+xU8kwr58V8F+1QH70ZR6CHubq/WKPWCBfQwmFH0 Hndtv4PahXVKX7hNTbqbyWCdtOM59o5tXFjkiIfcaVa15lt8/okh86qqPyLRokgilSsfatYeY 9qXlyUF8ySeErmukCX7Rf7odlujSRaNq1tUzcBWifZ138mruEgvdiPZ93vzm4eqTdtxuwoAlK ZJKmXsrAF4R9U1toUp50viyNcl7/meacbzHzWD+hlRQ95dIfIl7C6McZ8Yuu1LufBmjAWYNyv vakvUUfX4rdBW7Pu4caXQMfPn7kC59kjV3iM3YMHv+DUad37xTY2ira+XQEwZrzUxIrhxFa53 C0R6dbGoDmJeWzhtiICiDzjIXMOVBRkpTCXLtbdF2D+VbR0G0T+7hL0QV8Wa7kIIqvX2TYXcD LBad1Tc9UxlpapAw6WdW8B3JsPAH1Q9KnoIeyuUzYhqtxPrxqTz5uOBxNs3/jigfnzypaNwAI 92T7TRvFC8p9gOjQ0/7E7C7EDjgw+O/qQfETMV5bPQHl1WswqSxq8fbE45uNqpiQVrkpTPytf s426qNjk69fptO+lqp2jO59YsxZUjtkpZvqN3ne9SyjVhDCYTz1CP/5OzN9Mt2l7GkeY8GtdR tV/4B6aRGmCZgrGrbr++yqsh+miLFAMWh5P3X9Bd2THjUly4kby8Mck3TFv22DEnA5iCVzJb6 HILgrRsBs9H2WgjD+VWSQSuMSSE3K+EsU+XG144fWQufoh4LowmSXdmDUzp0t2CNfJH/YS+ZG WP3ElghrbrAx2a3fnmDg== Hi Iain, Thanks for the explication. Thus, this is an error notice of failed sending. Using "V" the mails seem to be completely empty. Well I suppose, they come from messages that did not arrive (at least 2; but in both cases they were important enough that I was "reminded" ;-)). For now, I will not worry and set-up more important functions (the Spam filtering..). I keep observing the issue. Best regards, Robert Excerpts from Iain Parris's message of 2020-07-09 18:59:42 +0100: > Hi Robert, > > Excerpts from Robert Winkler's message of 2020-07-09 09:50:48 -0700: > > Hi, I am getting mails from the Sup Autogenerated Fake Sender > > > > What are they good for and where can they be switched off? > > If the email is malformed and missing its "From" header, then the > default "From" header value used by Sup is "Sup Auto-generated Fake > Sender ". See: > > > I wouldn't expect you to see many of these - it's extremely unusual for > an email to be so malformed that it's missing a From header. > > If you open one of these malformed emails in Sup and press "V", then Sup > will show you the raw email message. (Press "x" to return to the normal > view.) > > This should then help you to track down the origin of these malformed > emails. > > Kind regards, > Iain >