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But it still has kept a cult following of delighted users over the years (source: I am one!), and it is now going to be maintained again. This mailing list has been inactive for a long time. for the "sup" mail client, . I would first like to say a huge thank you to all of the sup contributors over the years, and in particular special thanks to William Morgan (original creator) and Gaute Hope (took over most maintenance in 2013, though now has a focus on notmuch/astroid - different email client ecosystem, and all originally inspired by sup). I am a long-time very happy sup user. It has been my primary mail client for over 11 years. I found out a few days ago that sup was no longer being maintained, after spotting that the "sup-mail" package had disappeared in the latest Ubuntu release (focal, 20.04 LTS). I contacted Gaute Hope (@gauteh on GitHub, previous maintainer) and Dan Callaghan (@danc86 on GitHub, owner of the most recently active sup fork on GitHub). After discovering each other and realising we aren't the only people interested in keeping sup going, Dan and I have volunteered to maintain sup once more, and Gaute has very kindly facilitated passing on the baton. A huge *thank you* again to both of you, Dan and Gaute. To be upfront about goals, however: Dan & I are looking to be extremely conservative with respect to new features. We are interested in fixing what's broken, and keeping it fixed, rather than adding new features. This is because we are both long-time very happy users with the existing feature set. We aren't presently seeking new feature development, or to accept PRs for new features. The current tentative plan is: (0) Fix failing Travis CI build. Done. The build is now green again for the first time in five years, and sup has its first recent commits: . (1) Incrementally modernise the build. Likely to require applying incremental code fixes. For example, we would like to officially support all current Ruby versions (2.5, 2.6, 2.7). See: . (2) Update documentation, e.g., to remove the "no longer maintained" notice, fix broken links, and provide up-to-date installation information for the most common distributions. (3) Create a new 0.23 release of sup - the first release since 0.22.1 five years ago (2015-06-18). To be released on GitHub and published as a new version of the "sup" Ruby gem, . (4) Collaborate with major downstream packagers, for example perhaps (not a definitive list): - Debian & Ubuntu (apt) - Fedora (yum) - MacPorts? Interested? Comments? Thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions? It would be *wonderful* to hear from you all. I'm sure there are many other happy users out there, and this list is for the community as well as for development. :-) Do feel free to reply here on this mailing list, and/or to contribute in any other way (pull requests, GitHub issues, or any other way!). Dan, Gaute - I hope I have accurately summarised our conversations. Would you like to add anything? :-) Brief pointers: - sup on GitHub: - This mailing list: - Mailing list archives: - Dan Callaghan , @danc86 - Iain Parris , @IPv2 (Admin info: Gaute has now setup Dan with access to sup on GitHub, the sup gem on RubyGems, and this mailing list.) Kind regards, Iain