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From: lists+sup@protozoic.com (Tim Gray)
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:00:34 -0400
Subject: [sup-talk] problems with Maildir and IMAP offline
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On Tue 14, Jul'09 at 10:02 AM -0400, Andrei Thorp wrote:

> I'm forwarding a summary of your message with my replies to the mailing
> list. It seems like you replied to me only by accident?

Whoops.  I didn't realize this list didn't have reply-to set.  Thanks.

> Again, see sup-sync-back -- it does indeed have _some_ ability to write
> its state back to the source.

To me, this is a vital feature of any mail client.  I'll look into it, but I 
would really like this to be fully integrated into my mail client.  And from 
I've read, this isn't something that's going to happen.

Sometimes I need to use mutt/pine.  Sometimes webmail.  Most importantly, I 
want all my mail in a form that is easy to backup, human readable, and can 
be manipulated with standard utilities.  Maildir fits the bill.

I think it'd be fantastic if there was a mail client that allowed you to 
sort by folders, but also provided a sup-like view that laid on top if/when 
you needed.

> Put this in a hook and it's automatic. That's the beauty of the
> hook/multiple binary design.

Honestly, if it's that easy, shouldn't it be configured like that out of the 
box?

> I'm not entirely sure why you want this. If you're worried about
> failures, do they really happen? If you want to see the log, aren't you
> already piping it? If you want notifications, you could hook them up to
> happen in your sup hook (the one I described before) rather trivially
> via notify-send.

For use with other mail clients for one.  It's kind of nice having my IMAP 
syncing separate from the mail client.  I'm sure I could run it 
automatically via cron, but then you'd have to give up the quick refresh 
capability (minor) and the IDLE mode.  Sure, I could pipe the output 
somewhere else, but wouldn't that accomplish the same thing as just looking 
at the output already provided, either curses or one of the other ones? 
Again, it's running in screen so I don't even have it open on any windows.

Of course, that doesn't mean this is the best route to go, but it's been 
working for me for so far - I am new to it though.  It's a nice pretty 
colored interface too :)

Tim