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* [sup-talk] Behavior for sent messages
@ 2010-07-31  3:28 Edward Z. Yang
  2010-07-31  9:00 ` Philipp Überbacher
  2010-07-31 11:25 ` Ben Walton
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Edward Z. Yang @ 2010-07-31  3:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sup-talk

Does anyone know when the default behavior for sent messages became
'Archive automatically'?  I've found keeping then in the inbox was
a good reminder for following up in the case of lack of response,
so at least making this configurable would be nice.

Cheers,
Edward
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* Re: [sup-talk] Behavior for sent messages
  2010-07-31  3:28 [sup-talk] Behavior for sent messages Edward Z. Yang
@ 2010-07-31  9:00 ` Philipp Überbacher
  2010-07-31 11:25 ` Ben Walton
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From: Philipp Überbacher @ 2010-07-31  9:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sup-talk

Excerpts from Edward Z. Yang's message of 2010-07-31 05:28:44 +0200:
> Does anyone know when the default behavior for sent messages became
> 'Archive automatically'?  I've found keeping then in the inbox was
> a good reminder for following up in the case of lack of response,
> so at least making this configurable would be nice.
> 
> Cheers,
> Edward

They are kept in the inbox with 0.11. All I know.
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* Re: [sup-talk] Behavior for sent messages
  2010-07-31  3:28 [sup-talk] Behavior for sent messages Edward Z. Yang
  2010-07-31  9:00 ` Philipp Überbacher
@ 2010-07-31 11:25 ` Ben Walton
  2010-08-01  2:06   ` Edward Z. Yang
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From: Ben Walton @ 2010-07-31 11:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sup-talk

Excerpts from Edward Z. Yang's message of Fri Jul 30 23:28:44 -0400 2010:

> Does anyone know when the default behavior for sent messages became
> 'Archive automatically'?  I've found keeping then in the inbox was a
> good reminder for following up in the case of lack of response, so
> at least making this configurable would be nice.

I'm running pretty close to the tip of git/next and that's not the
behaviour here.  There are times, when using Maildir that the sent
message doesn't get added immediately, but it always pops up at the
next poll.

HTH.
-Ben
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* Re: [sup-talk] Behavior for sent messages
  2010-07-31 11:25 ` Ben Walton
@ 2010-08-01  2:06   ` Edward Z. Yang
  2010-08-01  2:15     ` Ben Walton
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From: Edward Z. Yang @ 2010-08-01  2:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ben Walton; +Cc: sup-talk

Excerpts from Ben Walton's message of Sat Jul 31 07:25:38 -0400 2010:
> I'm running pretty close to the tip of git/next and that's not the
> behaviour here.  There are times, when using Maildir that the sent
> message doesn't get added immediately, but it always pops up at the
> next poll.

Hello Ben,

I tested your hypothesis and noted that the messages did not pop up
with a poll.

Since this behavior does not seem intentional, I guess it's a regression
caused by some combination of factors (possibly the new backsync branch?)
I'll try to reproduce on a clean Maildir with sup commit 900768918490a1040b55e2216f7f5429b2dadf84

Cheers,
Edward
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* Re: [sup-talk] Behavior for sent messages
  2010-08-01  2:06   ` Edward Z. Yang
@ 2010-08-01  2:15     ` Ben Walton
  2010-08-15 23:58       ` Edward Z. Yang
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From: Ben Walton @ 2010-08-01  2:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sup-talk

Excerpts from Edward Z. Yang's message of Sat Jul 31 22:06:34 -0400 2010:

Hi Edward,

> Since this behavior does not seem intentional, I guess it's a
> regression caused by some combination of factors (possibly the new
> backsync branch?)  I'll try to reproduce on a clean Maildir with sup
> commit 900768918490a1040b55e2216f7f5429b2dadf84

Ok, that's interesting.  If it helps, I'm running on 3f9d7d9, with my
conditional Symbol#to_proc patch added...I haven't done a pull since
then although the patch was merged.

This might provide you a useful range for a bisect though...

HTH.
-Ben

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* Re: [sup-talk] Behavior for sent messages
  2010-08-01  2:15     ` Ben Walton
@ 2010-08-15 23:58       ` Edward Z. Yang
  2010-09-09 16:56         ` Edward Z. Yang
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From: Edward Z. Yang @ 2010-08-15 23:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ben Walton; +Cc: sup-talk

I've tracked down the regression to this merge: 45c3433c0 Merge remote branch 'origin/maildir'

I'd appreciate a quick san-check before I start investigating the merge more
closely: you can easily test for this bug by renaming your .sup directory away
and creating a fresh sup directory.
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* Re: [sup-talk] Behavior for sent messages
  2010-08-15 23:58       ` Edward Z. Yang
@ 2010-09-09 16:56         ` Edward Z. Yang
  2010-10-29  0:31           ` Tero Tilus
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From: Edward Z. Yang @ 2010-09-09 16:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ben Walton, sup-talk

Excerpts from Edward Z. Yang's message of Sun Aug 15 19:58:03 -0400 2010:
> I've tracked down the regression to this merge: 45c3433c0 Merge remote branch 'origin/maildir'
> 
> I'd appreciate a quick san-check before I start investigating the merge more
> closely: you can easily test for this bug by renaming your .sup directory away
> and creating a fresh sup directory.

Hello,

Has anyone been able to reproduce this bug on the relevant commit?

Edward
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* Re: [sup-talk] Behavior for sent messages
  2010-09-09 16:56         ` Edward Z. Yang
@ 2010-10-29  0:31           ` Tero Tilus
  2010-10-29 23:00             ` Tero Tilus
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From: Tero Tilus @ 2010-10-29  0:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sup-talk

Edward Z. Yang, 2010-09-09 19:56:
> Has anyone been able to reproduce this bug on the relevant commit?

I'm running git next and my sent mail gets archived right away.  What
I see by reading the code is that the default SentLoader (which I use)
is hardwired to be "archived", which means the inbox tag is removed
from new messages added to index from that source.

SentLoader has been like that since 2007, but I definitely have seen
my sent mail appear to my inbox up until I updated from e97f535e9 to
927b6bae94.

Does anyone have sent mail showing up in inbox?

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* Re: [sup-talk] Behavior for sent messages
  2010-10-29  0:31           ` Tero Tilus
@ 2010-10-29 23:00             ` Tero Tilus
  2010-10-29 23:29               ` Edward Z. Yang
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From: Tero Tilus @ 2010-10-29 23:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sup-talk

I just noticed that when I replied, the thread appeared to inbox and
disappeared when I refreshed (hit @) the inbox buffer.

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* Re: [sup-talk] Behavior for sent messages
  2010-10-29 23:00             ` Tero Tilus
@ 2010-10-29 23:29               ` Edward Z. Yang
  2010-10-29 23:49                 ` Matias Aguirre
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From: Edward Z. Yang @ 2010-10-29 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tero Tilus; +Cc: sup-talk

Excerpts from Tero Tilus's message of Fri Oct 29 19:00:08 -0400 2010:
> I just noticed that when I replied, the thread appeared to inbox and
> disappeared when I refreshed (hit @) the inbox buffer.

That's quite interesting :-)  I haven't had time to dig into this, but
a verification is good to hear.

Edward
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* Re: [sup-talk] Behavior for sent messages
  2010-10-29 23:29               ` Edward Z. Yang
@ 2010-10-29 23:49                 ` Matias Aguirre
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From: Matias Aguirre @ 2010-10-29 23:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I didn't dug on this one, but I can confirm behavior difference, I
liked previous one and noticed immediately. Just adding my vote here.

Thanks,
Matías

Excerpts from Edward Z. Yang's message of Fri Oct 29 21:29:55 -0200 2010:
> Excerpts from Tero Tilus's message of Fri Oct 29 19:00:08 -0400 2010:
> > I just noticed that when I replied, the thread appeared to inbox and
> > disappeared when I refreshed (hit @) the inbox buffer.
> 
> That's quite interesting :-)  I haven't had time to dig into this, but
> a verification is good to hear.
> 
> Edward
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