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* [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view
@ 2009-12-11 14:19 C. Morgan Hamill
  2009-12-19 19:14 ` William Morgan
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From: C. Morgan Hamill @ 2009-12-11 14:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Howdy folks,

I've got a really straightforward question that I can't seem to find an
answer for in the wiki or the New Users Guide or Google, for that matter—is
it normal behavior for a newly composed and then sent message to appear in
inbox view, i.e. to be labled both 'inbox' and 'sent'? Or do I have
something misconfigured? Any help would be appreciated.

Yours, Morgan
chamill@wesleyan.edu

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* Re: [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view
  2009-12-11 14:19 [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view C. Morgan Hamill
@ 2009-12-19 19:14 ` William Morgan
  2009-12-19 21:27   ` Helge Titlestad
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From: William Morgan @ 2009-12-19 19:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Reformatted excerpts from C. Morgan Hamill's message of 2009-12-11:
> I've got a really straightforward question that I can't seem to find
> an answer for in the wiki or the New Users Guide or Google, for that
> matter—is it normal behavior for a newly composed and then sent
> message to appear in inbox view, i.e. to be labled both 'inbox' and
> 'sent'? Or do I have something misconfigured? Any help would be
> appreciated.

Nope, that's normal. It's easy to change that though. I wonder what
people think--is it reassuring to see it in the inbox, or is it
irritating?

I think it might be better to auto-archive sent messages and to flash a
message saying "Message sent!" or something instead.
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* Re: [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view
  2009-12-19 19:14 ` William Morgan
@ 2009-12-19 21:27   ` Helge Titlestad
  2009-12-19 22:26   ` Ben Walton
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From: Helge Titlestad @ 2009-12-19 21:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Sat Dec 19 20:14:33 +0100 2009:
> [sent messages appering in inbox]
> I wonder what people think--is it reassuring to see it in the inbox, or is it
> irritating?

I like the way sup does it at the moment. Somebody (me) started a new thread,
so it's something I'm interested in (seeing replies to). The way I use sup I
will only keep emails in the inbox if they have some kind of outstanding
action (me to reply or someone else to reply), so getting sent emails in the
inbox is purrfect.

The only mails I always archive at once are mails I've forwarded to my gmail
account so I can see its attachments in a browser.
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* Re: [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view
  2009-12-19 19:14 ` William Morgan
  2009-12-19 21:27   ` Helge Titlestad
@ 2009-12-19 22:26   ` Ben Walton
  2009-12-20  1:22   ` Cameron Matheson
  2009-12-20  2:17   ` Tero Tilus
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From: Ben Walton @ 2009-12-19 22:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Sat Dec 19 14:14:33 -0500 2009:

> I think it might be better to auto-archive sent messages and to flash a
> message saying "Message sent!" or something instead.

I'm not opposed to a changed default (a configure knob would be nice
though), but I've always liked the current behaviour and now find
gmail's behaviour annoying.  To me, it fits more with the 'big stack
of mail' approach, although it's definitely a grey area when you
consider auto-archived sources.

Thanks
-Ben
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* Re: [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view
  2009-12-19 19:14 ` William Morgan
  2009-12-19 21:27   ` Helge Titlestad
  2009-12-19 22:26   ` Ben Walton
@ 2009-12-20  1:22   ` Cameron Matheson
  2009-12-21 16:56     ` John Bent
  2009-12-20  2:17   ` Tero Tilus
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From: Cameron Matheson @ 2009-12-20  1:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: sup-talk

Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Sat Dec 19 12:14:33 -0700 2009:
> Reformatted excerpts from C. Morgan Hamill's message of 2009-12-11:
> > I've got a really straightforward question that I can't seem to find
> > an answer for in the wiki or the New Users Guide or Google, for that
> > matter—is it normal behavior for a newly composed and then sent
> > message to appear in inbox view, i.e. to be labled both 'inbox' and
> > 'sent'? Or do I have something misconfigured? Any help would be
> > appreciated.
> 
> Nope, that's normal. It's easy to change that though. I wonder what
> people think--is it reassuring to see it in the inbox, or is it
> irritating?

I really appreciate the current behavior.
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* Re: [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view
  2009-12-19 19:14 ` William Morgan
                     ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2009-12-20  1:22   ` Cameron Matheson
@ 2009-12-20  2:17   ` Tero Tilus
  2009-12-21 13:45     ` William Morgan
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From: Tero Tilus @ 2009-12-20  2:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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William Morgan, 2009-12-19 21:14:
> I think it might be better to auto-archive sent messages and to
> flash a message saying "Message sent!" or something instead.

I don't.  ;)

One of the reasons I L-O-V-E sup is that it shows sent and drafts in
inbox.  If the default behavior changes at some point, I'm fine as
long as I can configure (so that I don't have to patch) my sup back to
current behavior.

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* Re: [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view
  2009-12-20  2:17   ` Tero Tilus
@ 2009-12-21 13:45     ` William Morgan
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From: William Morgan @ 2009-12-21 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Reformatted excerpts from Tero Tilus's message of 2009-12-19:
> One of the reasons I L-O-V-E sup is that it shows sent and drafts in
> inbox.

Ok, this seems like quite a consensus!

Morgan, if you are really bugged by this behavior, I suggest you make a
feature request on the bug tracker http://masanjin.net/sup-bugs/. It
would not be difficult to make this configurable per-user. The easiest
solution would be to have SentLoader act more like a regular source and
generate labels based on its #archived? attribute instead of hardcoding
them. 
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* Re: [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view
  2009-12-20  1:22   ` Cameron Matheson
@ 2009-12-21 16:56     ` John Bent
  2009-12-21 18:13       ` William Morgan
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From: John Bent @ 2009-12-21 16:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Excerpts from Cameron Matheson's message of Sat Dec 19 18:22:44 -0700 2009:
> Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Sat Dec 19 12:14:33 -0700 2009:
> > Reformatted excerpts from C. Morgan Hamill's message of 2009-12-11:
> > > I've got a really straightforward question that I can't seem to find
> > > an answer for in the wiki or the New Users Guide or Google, for that
> > > matter—is it normal behavior for a newly composed and then sent
> > > message to appear in inbox view, i.e. to be labled both 'inbox' and
> > > 'sent'? Or do I have something misconfigured? Any help would be
> > > appreciated.
> > 
> > Nope, that's normal. It's easy to change that though. I wonder what
> > people think--is it reassuring to see it in the inbox, or is it
> > irritating?
> 
> I really appreciate the current behavior.
>
+1.  But I wish forwarded emails would be part of the thread instead of
a new one.  I often just reply and change the to: field in order to get
this behavior.  If joining worked, that would also be fine.

John
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* Re: [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view
  2009-12-21 16:56     ` John Bent
@ 2009-12-21 18:13       ` William Morgan
  2009-12-21 18:25         ` John Bent
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From: William Morgan @ 2009-12-21 18:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Reformatted excerpts from John Bent's message of 2009-12-21:
> +1.  But I wish forwarded emails would be part of the thread instead of
> a new one.

Me too!

> I often just reply and change the to: field in order to get this
> behavior.  If joining worked, that would also be fine.

I thought joining worked in recent Sups.
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* Re: [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view
  2009-12-21 18:13       ` William Morgan
@ 2009-12-21 18:25         ` John Bent
  2009-12-21 18:34           ` William Morgan
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From: John Bent @ 2009-12-21 18:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Mon Dec 21 11:13:45 -0700 2009:
> Reformatted excerpts from John Bent's message of 2009-12-21:
> > +1.  But I wish forwarded emails would be part of the thread instead of
> > a new one.
> 
> Me too!
> 
> > I often just reply and change the to: field in order to get this
> > behavior.  If joining worked, that would also be fine.
> 
> I thought joining worked in recent Sups.
>
I'm on 0.9 and it's not working.  It works but is not persistent across
quitting and restarting.

John
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* Re: [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view
  2009-12-21 18:25         ` John Bent
@ 2009-12-21 18:34           ` William Morgan
  2009-12-21 18:47             ` John Bent
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From: William Morgan @ 2009-12-21 18:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Reformatted excerpts from John Bent's message of 2009-12-21:
> I'm on 0.9 and it's not working.  It works but is not persistent
> across quitting and restarting.

Rats. It works consistently for me. Ferret or Xapian?
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* Re: [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view
  2009-12-21 18:34           ` William Morgan
@ 2009-12-21 18:47             ` John Bent
  2009-12-21 19:31               ` William Morgan
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From: John Bent @ 2009-12-21 18:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Mon Dec 21 11:34:30 -0700 2009:
> Reformatted excerpts from John Bent's message of 2009-12-21:
> > I'm on 0.9 and it's not working.  It works but is not persistent
> > across quitting and restarting.
> 
> Rats. It works consistently for me. Ferret or Xapian?
>
Ferret still.  Scared to change.  One day... This adds motivation.

John
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* Re: [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view
  2009-12-21 18:47             ` John Bent
@ 2009-12-21 19:31               ` William Morgan
  2009-12-21 20:02                 ` Tarko Tikan
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From: William Morgan @ 2009-12-21 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Reformatted excerpts from John Bent's message of 2009-12-21:
> Ferret still.  Scared to change.  One day... This adds motivation.

I'm still using Ferret too. Weird that it would work for me and not for
you.

Poll time: is joining threads NOT persistent for anyone else?
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* Re: [sup-talk] Sent mail in inbox view
  2009-12-21 19:31               ` William Morgan
@ 2009-12-21 20:02                 ` Tarko Tikan
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From: Tarko Tikan @ 2009-12-21 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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hey,

> Poll time: is joining threads NOT persistent for anyone else?

0.9.1+ferret: tag 2 threads, join with # -> threads appear as one
save index with $, reload with @ -> threads appear separate again

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