From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: by 10.90.117.16 with SMTP id p16cs413020agc; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 08:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.91.196 with SMTP id o4mr1575796qam.233.1257094474143; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:54:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from rubyforge.org (rubyforge.org [205.234.109.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 30si8230370qyk.76.2009.11.01.08.54.33; Sun, 01 Nov 2009 08:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of sup-talk-bounces@rubyforge.org designates 205.234.109.19 as permitted sender) client-ip=205.234.109.19; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of sup-talk-bounces@rubyforge.org designates 205.234.109.19 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=sup-talk-bounces@rubyforge.org Received: from rubyforge.org (rubyforge.org [127.0.0.1]) by rubyforge.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD4A715B802E; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:54:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.82]) by rubyforge.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141F0185827F for ; Sun, 1 Nov 2009 11:48:16 -0500 (EST) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,662,1249250400"; d="scan'208";a="39314191" Received: from peray.inria.fr (HELO localhost) ([128.93.8.98]) by mail1-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP; 01 Nov 2009 17:48:16 +0100 From: Nicolas Pouillard To: sup-talk In-reply-to: <1257091305-sup-4606@masanjin.net> References: <1256749942-sup-4831@arrakis.es.net> <1256760295-sup-9873@peray> <1256760970-sup-8118@arrakis.es.net> <1256939476-sup-2864@masanjin.net> <1256987483-sup-338@tilus.net> <1257086191-sup-1136@masanjin.net> <1257088992-sup-5165@peray> <1257091305-sup-4606@masanjin.net> Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:48:16 +0100 Message-Id: <1257093429-sup-8020@peray> User-Agent: Sup/git Subject: Re: [sup-talk] [PATCH] minor nits in exception apology message X-BeenThere: sup-talk@rubyforge.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: User & developer discussion of Sup List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: sup-talk-bounces@rubyforge.org Errors-To: sup-talk-bounces@rubyforge.org Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Sun Nov 01 17:19:23 +0100 2009: > Reformatted excerpts from Nicolas Pouillard's message of 2009-11-01: > > Have strong points against Ditz or this is also a lake of energy? > > Both, really. Ditz was an experiment, and after using it for a while I > decided it was more trouble than it was worth. I also realized that I > *did* want a centralized web site after all, and not necessarily a > complicated distributed thing, both because I want non-technical users > to be able to submit bug reports, and because development, in reality, > *is* centralized. I think I see your point, however I think there is no less no more to centralize in a bugtracker than in a source code management tool. Indeed in most projects using a DVCS, they have a central repository, this does not reduce the benefits of distributed tools. Distributed bugtrackers does not necessary exclude having a central point. What I found cool about distributed bugtrackers is that the bug-closing action can follow the code that fixes the bug. Being in a branch, or being reviewed... About non-technical users, I think that just a mail (thread) on the mailing-list could suffice. Of course some web app can make things clearer. > (I had been doing some work on Sheila, which would've provided a web > frontent that people could use to submit bug reports, but even that > wouldn't be quite what I wanted.) > Having thought about it for a while, I think what I *really* want for > Sup is something that tracks bugs/feature requests at the feature branch > level (i.e. assumes that each feature branch provides a new feature or a > bugfix), has a web interface for non-technical users to submit bug > reports and for developers to browse/modify state on bugs, and which > uses email for discussion, like I did with Whisper. (And I would be fine > with it being git-specific.) Maybe Ditz is not very far from that. > I am now spending all my energy trying to keep myself from building such > a thing. Good luck on this :) -- Nicolas Pouillard http://nicolaspouillard.fr _______________________________________________ sup-talk mailing list sup-talk@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/sup-talk