Re: [sup-talk] [PATCH] minor nits in exception apology message

From: Nicolas Pouillard <nicolas.pouillard@gmail.com>
To: sup-talk <sup-talk@rubyforge.org>
Subject: Re: [sup-talk] [PATCH] minor nits in exception apology message
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:48:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1257093429-sup-8020@peray> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1257091305-sup-4606@masanjin.net>

Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Sun Nov 01 17:19:23 +0100 2009:
> Reformatted excerpts from Nicolas Pouillard's message of 2009-11-01:
> > Have strong points against Ditz or this is also a lake of energy?
> 
> Both, really. Ditz was an experiment, and after using it for a while I
> decided it was more trouble than it was worth. I also realized that I
> *did* want a centralized web site after all, and not necessarily a
> complicated distributed thing, both because I want non-technical users
> to be able to submit bug reports, and because development, in reality,
> *is* centralized.

I think I see your point, however I think there is no less no more to
centralize in a bugtracker than in a source code management tool. Indeed
in most projects using a DVCS, they have a central repository, this
does not reduce the benefits of distributed tools. Distributed bugtrackers
does not necessary exclude having a central point.  What I found cool
about distributed bugtrackers is that the bug-closing action can follow
the code that fixes the bug. Being in a branch, or being reviewed...

About non-technical users, I think that just a mail (thread) on the
mailing-list could suffice. Of course some web app can make things clearer.

> (I had been doing some work on Sheila, which would've provided a web
> frontent that people could use to submit bug reports, but even that
> wouldn't be quite what I wanted.)

> Having thought about it for a while, I think what I *really* want for
> Sup is something that tracks bugs/feature requests at the feature branch
> level (i.e. assumes that each feature branch provides a new feature or a
> bugfix), has a web interface for non-technical users to submit bug
> reports and for developers to browse/modify state on bugs, and which
> uses email for discussion, like I did with Whisper. (And I would be fine
> with it being git-specific.)

Maybe Ditz is not very far from that.

> I am now spending all my energy trying to keep myself from building such 
> a thing.

Good luck on this :)

-- 
Nicolas Pouillard
http://nicolaspouillard.fr
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