* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
@ 2008-01-05 21:46 Giorgio Lando
2008-01-07 6:04 ` William Morgan
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Giorgio Lando @ 2008-01-05 21:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
I had initially some problems with encoding in sup (accented chars were
not displayed). So I have looked in lib/sup.rb and I have seen that sup
tries to determine the $encoding from the $ctype, determined on its turn
by LC_CTYPE and LANG. This failed in my case (I do not know why: my
$LANG is it_IT and my $LC_ALL - implying $LC_CTYPE - is it_IT at euro).
Anyway I guess that sup could/should use the environment variable $CHARSET,
when it is defined, and resort to other methods only if $CHARSET is not
defined. Or at least I have been able to fix my issue with encodings by
changing the 55th line of lib/sup.rb in the following way:
$encoding = ENV["CHARSET"]
Cheers
Giorgio
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-05 21:46 [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding Giorgio Lando
@ 2008-01-07 6:04 ` William Morgan
2008-01-07 8:44 ` Giorgio Lando
2008-01-07 8:51 ` Giorgio Lando
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From: William Morgan @ 2008-01-07 6:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
Excerpts from Giorgio Lando's message of Sat Jan 05 13:46:43 -0800 2008:
> I had initially some problems with encoding in sup (accented chars
> were not displayed). So I have looked in lib/sup.rb and I have seen
> that sup tries to determine the $encoding from the $ctype, determined
> on its turn by LC_CTYPE and LANG. This failed in my case (I do not
> know why: my $LANG is it_IT and my $LC_ALL - implying $LC_CTYPE - is
> it_IT at euro).
The current way I choose the encoding is a complete hack, and clearly
doesn't work for your case. (It looks for a .<something> at the end of
LANG or LC_CTYPE). But I'm not really sure what the correct way is.
What does this command produce on your system? "locale -c LC_CTYPE |
head -6".
> $encoding = ENV["CHARSET"]
I don't really want to use a non-standard environment variable if at all
possible...
--
William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-07 6:04 ` William Morgan
@ 2008-01-07 8:44 ` Giorgio Lando
2008-01-07 8:51 ` Giorgio Lando
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From: Giorgio Lando @ 2008-01-07 8:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
> What does this command produce on your system? "locale -c LC_CTYPE |
> head -6".
It produces:
LC_CTYPE
upper;lower;alpha;digit;xdigit;space;print;graph;blank;cntrl;punct;alnum;combining;combining_level3
toupper;tolower;totitle
16
1
ISO-8859-15
And actually ISO-8859-15 is the right/desired encoding.
Giorgio
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-07 6:04 ` William Morgan
2008-01-07 8:44 ` Giorgio Lando
@ 2008-01-07 8:51 ` Giorgio Lando
2008-01-09 18:00 ` William Morgan
1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Giorgio Lando @ 2008-01-07 8:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
> > $encoding = ENV["CHARSET"]
>
> I don't really want to use a non-standard environment variable if at all
> possible...
I understand. May be the encoding problems are so intricate and
heterogeneous that they could be worth a configuration option, so the
user can in anyway force a certain encoding if needed/desired?
Giorgio
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-07 8:51 ` Giorgio Lando
@ 2008-01-09 18:00 ` William Morgan
2008-01-10 0:39 ` Giorgio Lando
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From: William Morgan @ 2008-01-09 18:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
Excerpts from Giorgio Lando's message of Mon Jan 07 00:51:08 -0800 2008:
> I understand. May be the encoding problems are so intricate and
> heterogeneous that they could be worth a configuration option, so the
> user can in anyway force a certain encoding if needed/desired?
I'm certainly happy to allow users to force a certain encoding, but I
think largely issue of encoding problems HAS been solved (at least on
Unixes) by locale and all the LC_* environment variables. I'm certainly
not an export on this stuff, though.
I just committed the following terrible patch to next, which should
properly find everyone's locale, if they have a locale. Mac users, I'd
love to know if this actually works for you.
commit 6af3048fe82f48f0368a619ea785f0a394b0bbd4
Author: William Morgan <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>
Date: Wed Jan 9 08:30:30 2008 -0800
detect character set correctly (but unix-centrically)
diff --git a/lib/sup.rb b/lib/sup.rb
index 25809dd..5bb27ba 100644
--- a/lib/sup.rb
+++ b/lib/sup.rb
@@ -49,16 +49,6 @@ module Redwood
YAML_DOMAIN = "masanjin.net"
YAML_DATE = "2006-10-01"
-## determine encoding and character set
-## probably a better way to do this
- $ctype = ENV["LC_CTYPE"] || ENV["LANG"] || "en-US.utf-8"
- $encoding =
- if $ctype =~ /\.(.*)?/
- $1
- else
- "utf-8"
- end
-
## record exceptions thrown in threads nicely
def reporting_thread name
if $opts[:no_threads]
@@ -235,6 +225,16 @@ module Redwood
module_function :log
end
+## determine encoding and character set. there MUST be a better way to
+## do this.
+ $encoding = `locale -c LC_CTYPE|head -6|tail -1`.chomp
+ if $encoding
+ Redwood::log "using character set encoding #{$encoding.inspect}"
+ else
+ Redwood::log "warning: can't find character set by using locale, defaulting
+ $encoding = "utf-8"
+ end
+
## now everything else (which can feel free to call Redwood::log at load time)
require "sup/update"
require "sup/suicide"
--
William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-09 18:00 ` William Morgan
@ 2008-01-10 0:39 ` Giorgio Lando
2008-01-13 2:22 ` William Morgan
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From: Giorgio Lando @ 2008-01-10 0:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
> I just committed the following terrible patch to next, which should
> properly find everyone's locale, if they have a locale. Mac users, I'd
> love to know if this actually works for you.
I am not a mac user, but it works fine for me!
Giorgio
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-10 0:39 ` Giorgio Lando
@ 2008-01-13 2:22 ` William Morgan
2008-01-13 13:09 ` Giorgio Lando
2008-01-15 16:30 ` Grant Hollingworth
0 siblings, 2 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: William Morgan @ 2008-01-13 2:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
Excerpts from Giorgio Lando's message of Wed Jan 09 16:39:10 -0800 2008:
> I am not a mac user, but it works fine for me!
I think I've found a better way, although it introduces yet another
dependency, to the 'gettext' gem. I'd be interested to see if this works
for you, Giorgio, and also for anyone who's running Sup under Cygwin or
OS X. This is an approach I feel a lot better about.
diff --git a/Rakefile b/Rakefile
index 2f2b992..d4060c1 100644
--- a/Rakefile
+++ b/Rakefile
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ Hoe.new('sup', Redwood::VERSION) do |p|
p.url = p.paragraphs_of('README.txt', 0).first.split(/\n/)[2].gsub(/^\s+/, "")
p.changes = p.paragraphs_of('History.txt', 0..0).join("\n\n")
p.email = "wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net"
- p.extra_deps = [['ferret', '>= 0.10.13'], ['ncurses', '>= 0.9.1'], ['rmail', '>= 0.17'], 'highline', 'net-ssh', ['trollop', '>= 1.7'], 'lockfile', 'mime-types']
+ p.extra_deps = [['ferret', '>= 0.10.13'], ['ncurses', '>= 0.9.1'], ['rmail', '>= 0.17'], 'highline', 'net-ssh', ['trollop', '>= 1.7'], 'lockfile', 'mime-types', 'gettext']
end
rule 'ss?.png' => 'ss?-small.png' do |t|
diff --git a/lib/sup.rb b/lib/sup.rb
index 5bb27ba..064e0af 100644
--- a/lib/sup.rb
+++ b/lib/sup.rb
@@ -3,6 +3,7 @@ require 'yaml'
require 'zlib'
require 'thread'
require 'fileutils'
+require 'gettext'
require 'curses'
class Object
@@ -225,9 +226,8 @@ module Redwood
module_function :log
end
-## determine encoding and character set. there MUST be a better way to
-## do this.
- $encoding = `locale -c LC_CTYPE|head -6|tail -1`.chomp
+## determine encoding and character set
+ $encoding = Locale.current.charset
if $encoding
Redwood::log "using character set encoding #{$encoding.inspect}"
else
--
1.5.4.rc2.60.gb2e62-dirty
--
William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-13 2:22 ` William Morgan
@ 2008-01-13 13:09 ` Giorgio Lando
2008-01-15 16:30 ` Grant Hollingworth
1 sibling, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Giorgio Lando @ 2008-01-13 13:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Sun Jan 13 03:22:58 +0100 2008:
>
> I think I've found a better way, although it introduces yet another
> dependency, to the 'gettext' gem. I'd be interested to see if this works
> for you, Giorgio, and also for anyone who's running Sup under Cygwin or
> OS X. This is an approach I feel a lot better about.
Yes, it works for me!
Giorgio
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-13 2:22 ` William Morgan
2008-01-13 13:09 ` Giorgio Lando
@ 2008-01-15 16:30 ` Grant Hollingworth
2008-01-16 1:45 ` William Morgan
1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: Grant Hollingworth @ 2008-01-15 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Sat Jan 12 21:22:58 -0500 2008:
> I think I've found a better way, although it introduces yet another
> dependency, to the 'gettext' gem. I'd be interested to see if this works
> for you, Giorgio, and also for anyone who's running Sup under Cygwin or
> OS X. This is an approach I feel a lot better about.
This works on OS X (10.5.1). Your other method of using locale(1) didn't.
('locale -c LC_CTYPE' returns 'LC_CTYPE' on my machine... not very useful.)
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-15 16:30 ` Grant Hollingworth
@ 2008-01-16 1:45 ` William Morgan
2008-01-16 2:20 ` Nicolas Pouillard
0 siblings, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: William Morgan @ 2008-01-16 1:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
Reformatted excerpts from Grant Hollingworth's message of 2008-01-15:
> Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Sat Jan 12 21:22:58 -0500 2008:
> > I think I've found a better way, although it introduces yet another
> > dependency, to the 'gettext' gem. I'd be interested to see if this
> > works for you, Giorgio, and also for anyone who's running Sup under
> > Cygwin or OS X. This is an approach I feel a lot better about.
>
> This works on OS X (10.5.1). Your other method of using locale(1)
> didn't. ('locale -c LC_CTYPE' returns 'LC_CTYPE' on my machine... not
> very useful.)
Exactly what I was hoping to hear. I'll merge those changes down to
master, then.
BTW, your past few messages have been using charset=LC_CTYPE, which the
mailing list ever-so-helpfully wraps in a nasty MIME attachment. So you
should switch back to the functioning version. :)
--
William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-16 1:45 ` William Morgan
@ 2008-01-16 2:20 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-16 2:57 ` William Morgan
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From: Nicolas Pouillard @ 2008-01-16 2:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Wed Jan 16 02:45:14 +0100 2008:
> Reformatted excerpts from Grant Hollingworth's message of 2008-01-15:
> > Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Sat Jan 12 21:22:58 -0500 2008:
> > > I think I've found a better way, although it introduces yet another
> > > dependency, to the 'gettext' gem. I'd be interested to see if this
> > > works for you, Giorgio, and also for anyone who's running Sup under
> > > Cygwin or OS X. This is an approach I feel a lot better about.
> >
> > This works on OS X (10.5.1). Your other method of using locale(1)
> > didn't. ('locale -c LC_CTYPE' returns 'LC_CTYPE' on my machine... not
> > very useful.)
>
> Exactly what I was hoping to hear. I'll merge those changes down to
> master, then.
>
> BTW, your past few messages have been using charset=LC_CTYPE, which the
> mailing list ever-so-helpfully wraps in a nasty MIME attachment. So you
> should switch back to the functioning version. :)
Yuck! I got this virus too :)
And I don't see your gettext patch neither on master nor on next ;(
--
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-16 2:20 ` Nicolas Pouillard
@ 2008-01-16 2:57 ` William Morgan
2008-01-16 3:09 ` William Morgan
2008-01-16 3:14 ` Nicolas Pouillard
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From: William Morgan @ 2008-01-16 2:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
Reformatted excerpts from nicolas.pouillard's message of 2008-01-15:
> And I don't see your gettext patch neither on master nor on next ;(
Whoops, I had never merged it onto next in the first place. Well, it's
on master now. Let me know if it gives you any trouble.
--
William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-16 2:57 ` William Morgan
@ 2008-01-16 3:09 ` William Morgan
2008-01-16 8:51 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-16 3:14 ` Nicolas Pouillard
1 sibling, 1 reply; 20+ messages in thread
From: William Morgan @ 2008-01-16 3:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
Reformatted excerpts from William Morgan's message of 2008-01-15:
> Reformatted excerpts from nicolas.pouillard's message of 2008-01-15:
> > And I don't see your gettext patch neither on master nor on next ;(
>
> Whoops, I had never merged it onto next in the first place. Well, it's
> on master now. Let me know if it gives you any trouble.
Aaaand merged onto next. I do seem to spend a lot of my time merging
from master to next. I wonder if that's proper git usage. Seems to
clutter up my pretty gitk graph.
--
William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-16 2:57 ` William Morgan
2008-01-16 3:09 ` William Morgan
@ 2008-01-16 3:14 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-16 3:23 ` William Morgan
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From: Nicolas Pouillard @ 2008-01-16 3:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Wed Jan 16 03:57:00 +0100 2008:
> Reformatted excerpts from nicolas.pouillard's message of 2008-01-15:
> > And I don't see your gettext patch neither on master nor on next ;(
>
> Whoops, I had never merged it onto next in the first place. Well, it's
> on master now. Let me know if it gives you any trouble.
Still not working, gettext is guessing ASCII-US but my LC_CTYPE contains
en_US.UTF-8.
What about `locale | grep LC_CTYPE | cut -d'"' -f2`?
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-16 3:14 ` Nicolas Pouillard
@ 2008-01-16 3:23 ` William Morgan
2008-01-16 3:28 ` Nicolas Pouillard
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From: William Morgan @ 2008-01-16 3:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
Sorry, meant to reply to list.
Reformatted excerpts from nicolas.pouillard's message of 2008-01-15:
> Still not working, gettext is guessing ASCII-US but my LC_CTYPE
> contains en_US.UTF-8.
Well crap. Do you have a $LC_CTYPE environment variable defined, that
it's not picking up on?
--
William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-16 3:23 ` William Morgan
@ 2008-01-16 3:28 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-16 3:38 ` William Morgan
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From: Nicolas Pouillard @ 2008-01-16 3:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Wed Jan 16 04:23:35 +0100 2008:
> Sorry, meant to reply to list.
>
> Reformatted excerpts from nicolas.pouillard's message of 2008-01-15:
> > Still not working, gettext is guessing ASCII-US but my LC_CTYPE
> > contains en_US.UTF-8.
>
> Well crap. Do you have a $LC_CTYPE environment variable defined, that
> it's not picking up on?
Yes $LC_CTYPE is set to en_US.UTF-8. I've looked at the gettext code and found something:
In locale_posix.rb:
...
[ENV["LC_ALL"], ENV["LC_MESSAGES"], ENV["LANG"],
...
In locale_win32.rb:
...
["LC_ALL", "LC_CTYPE", "LC_MESSAGES", "LANG"].each do |env|
...
Adding LC_CTYPE to the first list solve my problem...
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-16 3:28 ` Nicolas Pouillard
@ 2008-01-16 3:38 ` William Morgan
2008-01-16 8:46 ` Nicolas Pouillard
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From: William Morgan @ 2008-01-16 3:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
Reformatted excerpts from nicolas.pouillard's message of 2008-01-15:
> In locale_posix.rb:
> ...
> [ENV["LC_ALL"], ENV["LC_MESSAGES"], ENV["LANG"],
> ...
>
> In locale_win32.rb:
> ...
> ["LC_ALL", "LC_CTYPE", "LC_MESSAGES", "LANG"].each do |env|
> ...
>
> Adding LC_CTYPE to the first list solve my problem...
Excellent, sounds like a bug in gettext. If you submit a bug report,
would you mind cc'ing me?
--
William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>
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* [sup-talk] the proper way of determining the encoding
2008-01-16 3:38 ` William Morgan
@ 2008-01-16 8:46 ` Nicolas Pouillard
2008-01-18 16:40 ` Nicolas Pouillard
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From: Nicolas Pouillard @ 2008-01-16 8:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Wed Jan 16 04:38:14 +0100 2008:
> Reformatted excerpts from nicolas.pouillard's message of 2008-01-15:
> > In locale_posix.rb:
> > ...
> > [ENV["LC_ALL"], ENV["LC_MESSAGES"], ENV["LANG"],
> > ...
> >
> > In locale_win32.rb:
> > ...
> > ["LC_ALL", "LC_CTYPE", "LC_MESSAGES", "LANG"].each do |env|
> > ...
> >
> > Adding LC_CTYPE to the first list solve my problem...
>
> Excellent, sounds like a bug in gettext. If you submit a bug report,
> would you mind cc'ing me?
http://rubyforge.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=17133&group_id=855&atid=3377
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2008-01-16 3:09 ` William Morgan
@ 2008-01-16 8:51 ` Nicolas Pouillard
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From: Nicolas Pouillard @ 2008-01-16 8:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Wed Jan 16 04:09:48 +0100 2008:
> Reformatted excerpts from William Morgan's message of 2008-01-15:
> > Reformatted excerpts from nicolas.pouillard's message of 2008-01-15:
> > > And I don't see your gettext patch neither on master nor on next ;(
> >
> > Whoops, I had never merged it onto next in the first place. Well, it's
> > on master now. Let me know if it gives you any trouble.
>
> Aaaand merged onto next. I do seem to spend a lot of my time merging
> from master to next. I wonder if that's proper git usage. Seems to
> clutter up my pretty gitk graph.
I don't know the proper git usage, but I think that you should make all you
commits on next, apply all patches from users on next, and then cherry-pick
changes from next to master when they are well tested.
--
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2008-01-16 8:46 ` Nicolas Pouillard
@ 2008-01-18 16:40 ` Nicolas Pouillard
0 siblings, 0 replies; 20+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Pouillard @ 2008-01-18 16:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
Excerpts from Nicolas Pouillard's message of Wed Jan 16 09:46:08 +0100 2008:
> Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Wed Jan 16 04:38:14 +0100 2008:
> > Reformatted excerpts from nicolas.pouillard's message of 2008-01-15:
> > > In locale_posix.rb:
> > > ...
> > > [ENV["LC_ALL"], ENV["LC_MESSAGES"], ENV["LANG"],
> > > ...
> > >
> > > In locale_win32.rb:
> > > ...
> > > ["LC_ALL", "LC_CTYPE", "LC_MESSAGES", "LANG"].each do |env|
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Adding LC_CTYPE to the first list solve my problem...
> >
> > Excellent, sounds like a bug in gettext. If you submit a bug report,
> > would you mind cc'ing me?
>
> http://rubyforge.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=17133&group_id=855&atid=3377
>
It's end by a "wont fix":
"""
Date: 2008-01-17 12:29
Sender: Masao Mutoh
LC_CTYPE is not for messaging. So locale_win32.rb was wrong.
And it removed in current CVS version.
"""
I don't know much about locale and encoding but I thought LC_CTYPE was a
good way of setting it.
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