* [sup-devel] sup for sale
@ 2010-02-25 14:51 William Morgan
2010-02-25 15:32 ` Christian Dietrich
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From: William Morgan @ 2010-02-25 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: sup-devel mailing list
Hi all,
As has probably become painfully obvious to you all, my motivation for
developing and maintaing Sup has been waning over the past year.
I use Sup every day as my primary email client, so its bugs, problems
and misfeatures irritate me every day. This provides just enough
motivation for the current glacial pace of maintainership, which I'm
happy to continue doing. Sup will not die so long as I am around to use
it.
But if someone wants to take the ball and be an official maintainer, I
will give you my blessing and the power to gem push new releases. You
don't even have to maintain my current crazy branching scheme!
Otherwise, things will continue as they do now.
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2010-02-25 14:51 [sup-devel] sup for sale William Morgan
@ 2010-02-25 15:32 ` Christian Dietrich
2010-09-23 11:50 ` Gaute Hope
2010-02-25 20:04 ` Tero Tilus
2010-02-25 21:55 ` Rich Lane
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From: Christian Dietrich @ 2010-02-25 15:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: sup-devel
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Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Thu Feb 25 15:51:55 +0100 2010:
> But if someone wants to take the ball and be an official maintainer, I
> will give you my blessing and the power to gem push new releases. You
> don't even have to maintain my current crazy branching scheme!
Hi,
i haven't contributed much to sup yet (except one patch, that wasn't
applied) but i thinks its a really great mailer, that is it worth to
be activly continued.
In the last half year i made the experience that it is easier for
the single programmer (pusher) if he isn't the only one who is
allowed to push the upstream repository. Because there you have
always the possibility to say: Hm, i don't have the time in the next
3 weeks or so, but there is somebody else, who does merging/patching
and bugfixing. Perhaps it isn't that bad to give push right to a
group of people, who activly developed sup in the past.
Just my 2 cents
greetz didi
> Otherwise, things will continue as they do now.
I would really like to do more developing in sup, but without
getting your patches applied its a little bit frustrating.
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* Re: [sup-devel] sup for sale
2010-02-25 15:32 ` Christian Dietrich
@ 2010-09-23 11:50 ` Gaute Hope
2010-09-23 17:46 ` Alvaro Herrera
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From: Gaute Hope @ 2010-09-23 11:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: sup-devel
Excerpts from Christian Dietrich's message of 2010-02-25 16:32:39 +0100:
> Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Thu Feb 25 15:51:55 +0100 2010:
> > But if someone wants to take the ball and be an official maintainer, I
> > will give you my blessing and the power to gem push new releases. You
> > don't even have to maintain my current crazy branching scheme!
>
> Hi,
> i haven't contributed much to sup yet (except one patch, that wasn't
> applied) but i thinks its a really great mailer, that is it worth to
> be activly continued.
>
> In the last half year i made the experience that it is easier for
> the single programmer (pusher) if he isn't the only one who is
> allowed to push the upstream repository. Because there you have
> always the possibility to say: Hm, i don't have the time in the next
> 3 weeks or so, but there is somebody else, who does merging/patching
> and bugfixing. Perhaps it isn't that bad to give push right to a
> group of people, who activly developed sup in the past.
Hi,
First; thanks to both William and Rich for the great work on sup. I'm
using it full time now since I don't-really-know-anymore, there are
occasional bugs and more than a few problems with ruby 1.9 - but things
are starting to get along. Awesome work!
I just want to support the point of Christian Dietrich of perhaps adding
another maintainer/committer to be able to take some of the load when
Rich might be busy or gone for a while. I agree that it can be
de-motivating to contribute when you see the patches pile up, I imagine
it must be harder to go through the backlog as well. Still think Rich is
the man for the job thou, so he's the boss!
Best regards, Gaute
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* Re: [sup-devel] sup for sale
2010-09-23 11:50 ` Gaute Hope
@ 2010-09-23 17:46 ` Alvaro Herrera
2010-10-06 22:47 ` Michael Stapelberg
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From: Alvaro Herrera @ 2010-09-23 17:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: sup-devel
Excerpts from Gaute Hope's message of jue sep 23 07:50:23 -0400 2010:
> First; thanks to both William and Rich for the great work on sup. I'm
> using it full time now since I don't-really-know-anymore, there are
> occasional bugs and more than a few problems with ruby 1.9 - but things
> are starting to get along. Awesome work!
Seconded!
> I just want to support the point of Christian Dietrich of perhaps adding
> another maintainer/committer to be able to take some of the load when
> Rich might be busy or gone for a while. I agree that it can be
> de-motivating to contribute when you see the patches pile up, I imagine
> it must be harder to go through the backlog as well. Still think Rich is
> the man for the job thou, so he's the boss!
I just want to add that it's a bit discouraging to see that the master
branch doesn't move a bit for a long time. So it would be very good for
morale of us poor users to have someone else pushing patches, even if
it's just the minor bugfixes that we see pop up on the mailing lists.
(I don't have a lot to offer myself in term of patches, but I do have a
couple of very minor fixes sitting in my private tree just because it
seems rather pointless to send them along right now.)
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* Re: [sup-devel] sup for sale
2010-09-23 17:46 ` Alvaro Herrera
@ 2010-10-06 22:47 ` Michael Stapelberg
2010-10-07 3:08 ` Rich Lane
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From: Michael Stapelberg @ 2010-10-06 22:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: sup-devel; +Cc: Rich Lane
Hi Alvaro,
Excerpts from Alvaro Herrera's message of 2010-09-23 19:46:31 +0200:
> I just want to add that it's a bit discouraging to see that the master
> branch doesn't move a bit for a long time. So it would be very good for
> morale of us poor users to have someone else pushing patches, even if
> it's just the minor bugfixes that we see pop up on the mailing lists.
+1.
Last commit on sup/mainline:master is from 2010-07-16, which is nearly three
months. No offense, Rich, but if you don’t have time to merge patches and/or
respond to mails either, it would be a good idea to get someone else the
permissions to help you out.
Best regards,
Michael
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* Re: [sup-devel] sup for sale
2010-02-25 14:51 [sup-devel] sup for sale William Morgan
2010-02-25 15:32 ` Christian Dietrich
@ 2010-02-25 20:04 ` Tero Tilus
2010-02-25 21:55 ` Rich Lane
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From: Tero Tilus @ 2010-02-25 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: sup-devel
William Morgan, 2010-02-25 16:51:
> But if someone wants to take the ball and be an official maintainer,
> I will give you my blessing and the power to gem push new releases.
One in particular comes into my mind. Rich Lane has done an awesome
job with sup and shown exceptional vision with his work on sup-server.
IMHO, if Rich wants to catch the ball, he would make a great lead
maintainer.
> Otherwise, things will continue as they do now.
Which, I have to say, is not really bad at all. People develop,
patches get merged and released. Cycle could always be tighter, of
course. But sup is alive and strong.
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* Re: [sup-devel] sup for sale
2010-02-25 14:51 [sup-devel] sup for sale William Morgan
2010-02-25 15:32 ` Christian Dietrich
2010-02-25 20:04 ` Tero Tilus
@ 2010-02-25 21:55 ` Rich Lane
2010-02-25 23:26 ` William Morgan
2010-02-26 16:07 ` Tero Tilus
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From: Rich Lane @ 2010-02-25 21:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: William Morgan; +Cc: sup-devel mailing list
I'm willing to do it. I've been working on other projects lately, but I
can make time for Sup. I created accounts (rlane) at gitorious and
rubyforge.
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