Subject: [sup-talk] Gmail and OfflineIMAP

From: [email-masked] (fedzor)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:52:06 -0400

Hey,

I love sup. I first started using it ~ 0.3 with Gmail, but had to  
stop because Gmail was causing sup to crash unexpectedly (it also  
made it impossible to handle large amounts of email). But like I  
said, I love sup. I want it back in my life. I'm tired of being a  
wannabe command line junkie - I want to be a REAL command line  
junkie. Thus, I'm looking at my options again.

I'm thinking of using OfflineIMAP. Apparently it's fast (er than  
imap), and will allow me to send email offline (like offline git  
commits?). But how do I do this? How can I set it up?

Thanks,
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~ ari
About the use of language: it is impossible to sharpen a pencil with  
a blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes  
instead.
Edsger Dijkstra

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From: [email-masked] (William Morgan)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:04:46 -0700

> commits?). But how do I do this? How can I set it up?

A couple people have done this, and it seems to be the only real
workable solution to get reasonable speed with Sup. (IMAP's fault, not
Sup's, IMO.)

I've never used it personally, but there should be a couple people on
the list who could give you pointers. Also check the archives; I believe
it's been discussed quite a bit in the past.
-- 
William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>

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From: [email-masked] (Paul Hinze)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:06:07 -0500

fedzor <fedzor at gmail.com> on 2008-10-14 at 16:58:
> I love sup. I first started using it ~ 0.3 with Gmail, but had to stop 
> because Gmail was causing sup to crash unexpectedly (it also made it 
> impossible to handle large amounts of email). But like I said, I love sup. 
> I want it back in my life. I'm tired of being a wannabe command line 
> junkie - I want to be a REAL command line junkie. Thus, I'm looking at my 
> options again.
>
> I'm thinking of using OfflineIMAP. Apparently it's fast (er than imap), 

I too am lurking while sup goes through its early development phases.
In the meantime I use GMail and OfflineIMAP and other than the
occassional bug out from OfflineIMAP things have been working pretty
smoothly for a couple of months.  It's much faster than IMAP, especially
with my mua of choice: mutt.

> and will allow me to send email offline (like offline git commits?).

No, you still send mail using GMail's SMTP server.  It will sync back
any changes you make to the folder structure though.

> how do I do this? How can I set it up?

I figured it out from this link:
http://soren.overgaard.org/2007/12/15/backing-up-gmail-using-offlineimap/

Good luck!

Paul

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From: [email-masked] (Nicolas Pouillard)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 01:53:55 +0200

> workable solution to get reasonable speed with Sup. (IMAP's fault, not

I fetch GMail emails using POP (mpop) and then use sup with a single
huge mbox. Most of the times performances are correct, the drawback being
the lack of GMail back sync.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Pouillard aka Ertai
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From: [email-masked] (Paul Hinze)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:13:52 -0500

fedzor <fedzor at gmail.com> on 2008-10-14 at 17:14:
>
> On Oct 14, 2008, at 6:06 PM, Paul Hinze wrote:
> Wait, where does sup come into play if you're using mutt? I'm confused as 
> to what "Sup as a Service" really means.

Using the instructions linked in my previous email will allow you to use
offlineimap to mirror GMail account locally in Maildir format.  AFAICT,
you could then use sup, which supports Maildir as a source, to read and
search through your mail.

Hope this helps,

Paul