Subject: [sup-talk] sup wishlist

From: [email-masked] (jeff covey)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 13:44:51 -0400

william,

thanks again for all the work on sup!  i'm looking forward to trying it on
my actual mail once a system for physically deleting sup-deleted messages is
in place.

in the meantime, i checked out the todo list, and am glad to see so many of
my wishes already there!  :)  just to add some ideas, here are a few things
i would miss from mutt:

- the ability to pipe a message to a process.

  i often use this, for example, to run a message through urlview to get a
  list of urls to launch in a browser.

- an equivalent to mutt's display_filter.

  i like to have messages run through my own filter before they're displayed
  on the screen.  i think sup's method of collapsing comments and signatures
  works beautifully, but it can't catch everything.  for example, i like to
  remove the ads at the bottoms of yahoo! group posts and ridiculously long
  signatures about "this message was sent by an employee of yada yada and
  was intended for foo foo, if it was sent to you in error, please blah blah
  blah".

- gpg support would be nice someday.  :)

again, best wishes for your work.  i think it has terrific potential.

sincerely,

-- 
jeff covey
http://jeffcovey.net/

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From: [email-masked] (William Morgan)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:36:22 -0700

Hi Jeff,

Excerpts from jeff covey's message of Wed May 16 10:44:51 -0700 2007:
> thanks again for all the work on sup!

You're welcome, and thanks for the positive comments. Keeps me
motivated. :)

> just to add some ideas, here are a few things i would miss from mutt:
> 

Sounds good. Should be pretty easy to do.

>   was intended for foo foo, if it was sent to you in error, please blah blah

This should'nt be hard to do either, but the question is whether we
should just improve the signature detection in Sup. Do you use this for
other things?

> - gpg support would be nice someday.  :)

Someone is actually working on this right now!

-- 
William <wmorgan-sup at masanjin.net>

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From: [email-masked] (jeff covey)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 09:39:09 -0400

on Wed, May 16, 2007 at 12:36:22PM -0700%, William Morgan said:

> This should'nt be hard to do either, but the question is whether we should
> just improve the signature detection in Sup. 

no, there's no way to make the signature detection handle all the arbitrary
problems that people present in their messages.  some of them just have to
be handled manually on a case-by-case basis.  for example, one of the
regular posters on one mailing list i read considers this a valid signature
(and doesn't demarcate it with "-- "):

> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  VISTA SOFTWARE, DESIGNED TO RESTRICT WHAT YOU CAN DO.  www.badvista.org
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve Neither liberty nor safety",    Benjamin Franklin
> -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -   -
>    ASCII Ribbon Campaign. . . . . . . . . . . . accessBob
>    .NO HTML/PDF/RTF/MIME in e-mail. . . . . . . accessys at smartnospam.net
>    .NO MSWord docs in e-mail . . . .. . . . . . Access Systems, engineers
>    .NO attachments in e-mail, .*LINUX powered*. access is a civil right
> *#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#*#
> THIS message and any attachments are CONFIDENTIAL and may be
> privileged.  They are intended ONLY for the individual or entity named

no poor regexp should be taxed with handling things like this.

> Do you use this for other things?

i do assorted minor cleanup and generally remove things i don't need to see.
i'll attach the script i use, based on one from a friend.

i don't know what other people do with it, but i imagine some people format
messages with par and otherwise make other people's mail look like what they
would want to send themselves.

i find it a very useful feature for limiting what's displayed on the screen
to just the meaningful information.  for a thread-based display like sup's,
i think it would be doubly useful when dealing with screens full of replies.
i wouldn't want to scroll past bob's signature again and again.

> Someone is actually working on this right now!

awesome!  :)

thanks,

-- 
jeff covey
http://jeffcovey.net/

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From: [email-masked] (William Morgan)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 16:44:33 -0700

> (and doesn't demarcate it with "-- "):

Ok. Clearly you have a lot of special-purpose filtering which wouldn't
make sense to have in Sup. To the extent that Sup can catch general
cases, I'd like to do that there, but I certainly don't have any
problems with an external display_filter-type functionality.