Subject: [sup-talk] UTF-8 woes

From: [email-masked] (Einars Lielmanis)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:02:24 +0200

Sup is awesome! Good job, William! :-)

Yet, when using it for one day, some minor and less minor suckiness
and breakage in regard of non-english mails emerged as my recipients
started complaining about broken emails. I'm using sup/git under
64-bit arch linux with msmtp for sending, so maybe it would be better
with something sendmail-ish, have no idea, but still:

1. the subject with non-english (e.g, latvian accented) chars gets no
special treatment and safe encoding, and as such gets broken somewhere
on the wire,

2. something about the message text, probably missing
"Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit" makes my emails with latvian
characters explode with ugliness for my poor recipients on Outlook;

3. The minor glitch that the Sup's display is slightly messed up, if
the message contains multi-byte characters in headers -- fixed either
very nicely by extending String with length_utf8 (and substr_utf8, and
others as needed) function, and replacing s.length with s.length_utf8
in lib/sup/buffer.rb or by going the ugly way of assuming that all
strings are and will be utf-8 and dropping a horrendous monkeypatch
into the lib/sup/util.rb with

class String
+  def length
+    self.scan(/./u).size
+  end

To see what exactly is wrong with the sending of mails I compared of
how the same mail is sent by mutt and how -- by sup. You can see the
mails here: http://spicausis.lv/sup/ where mail-mutt.txt is good,
mail-sup.txt is bad.

My ruby skills are non-existant yet, but I guess I'll try to whip up
patches for these things today, if somebody with more ruby and sup and
mta shizzle don't beat me to that.

Cheers,

Einar Lielmanis

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From: [email-masked] (Tyberius Prime)
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:16:27 +0100

Hi,

I'm also struck by Sup's UTF-8 weirdnesses,
and can't get German szetz to display correctly
(and they mess with the line width as well).
The other umlauts work though, and I don't know why.

I'd also appreciate work on sending utf-8,
though subject encoding is a weird beast.
(And my ruby skills are 'by transfer' only as well).

So long,
Tyberius Prime