From cjparsons1@yahoo.co.uk Thu Nov 4 10:22:02 2010 From: cjparsons1@yahoo.co.uk (Chris Parsons) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 14:22:02 +0000 Subject: [sup-talk] Killed threads reappearing in inbox Message-ID: <1288879799-sup-5465@chris-eee> I'm running a relatively recent git branch of master > git log commit 60573298a2258c101a85b3de8121f73d7aec2d51 Author: Michael Hamann Date: Fri Oct 8 10:03:36 2010 -0400 If a mail arrives and I press "&" to kill the thread then it disappears from my inbox. If I do a search for killed messages it shows up. If another mail arrives in the same thread then it shows up in my inbox, including the "killed" tag (as attachment). Is there something I'm doing wrong? Chris -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(gzip it before to make sure it doesn?t get modified in any way) Best regards, Michael From mnjagadeesh@gmail.com Mon Nov 8 10:45:16 2010 From: mnjagadeesh@gmail.com (Jagadeesh N. Malakannavar) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 21:15:16 +0530 Subject: [sup-talk] How to install sup on gentoo? Message-ID: Hi, This is indeed Gentoo question but for curiosity I am asking, how to install sup on gentoo? I have installed using gem but imap support is missing on sup 0.11. On Linux mint I am using sup 0.10.2 which is working fine. But sometimes it throws exception, but after restart it works fine. May I know why Sup 0.11 does not have imap support? -- Many Thanks Jagadeesh N.Malakannavar GSM: +91 9448471968 H 81?? L 66? From michael+sup@stapelberg.de Mon Nov 8 12:48:48 2010 From: michael+sup@stapelberg.de (Michael Stapelberg) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:48:48 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] How to install sup on gentoo? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1289238466-sup-7050@midna.zekjur.net> Hi Jagadeesh, Excerpts from Jagadeesh N. Malakannavar's message of 2010-11-08 16:45:16 +0100: > May I know why Sup 0.11 does not have imap support? imap support was removed because it did not work properly and to facilitate the process of rewriting the source mechanism (using maildir as single source). Instead of an imap source, use offlineimap + maildir - it?s a lot faster! Best regards, Michael From hollunder@lavabit.com Mon Nov 8 13:20:32 2010 From: hollunder@lavabit.com (=?utf-8?q?Philipp_=C3=9Cberbacher?=) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 19:20:32 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] How to install sup on gentoo? In-Reply-To: <1289238466-sup-7050@midna.zekjur.net> References: <1289238466-sup-7050@midna.zekjur.net> Message-ID: <1289240405-sup-4176@eris> Excerpts from Michael Stapelberg's message of 2010-11-08 18:48:48 +0100: > Hi Jagadeesh, > > Excerpts from Jagadeesh N. Malakannavar's message of 2010-11-08 16:45:16 +0100: > > May I know why Sup 0.11 does not have imap support? > imap support was removed because it did not work properly and to facilitate the > process of rewriting the source mechanism (using maildir as single source). > Instead of an imap source, use offlineimap + maildir - it?s a lot faster! > > Best regards, > Michael offlineimap seems to be unmaintained though.. it works, mostly, for now From mnjagadeesh@gmail.com Wed Nov 10 01:48:39 2010 From: mnjagadeesh@gmail.com (Jagadeesh N. Malakannavar) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:18:39 +0530 Subject: [sup-talk] strange chars in email body Message-ID: Hi, I am seeing strange characters like M-b~@~S M-b~@~Y [for donM-b~@~Yt] In the email body. I am using $ sup -v sup vgit $ echo $LANG en_US.utf8 Am I setting anything wrong? -- J agadeesh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am using > > $ sup -v > sup vgit > > $ echo $LANG > en_US.utf8 > > Am I setting anything wrong? Have you installed ncursesw gem? -- Amadeusz ?o?nowski PGP key fpr: C700 CEDE 0C18 212E 49DA 4653 F013 4531 E1DB FAB5 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 490 bytes Desc: not available URL: From shadowfirebird@gmail.com Wed Nov 10 07:07:40 2010 From: shadowfirebird@gmail.com (Shadowfirebird) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:07:40 +0000 Subject: [sup-talk] Errors installing ncursesw Message-ID: <1289390629-sup-7999@blake> Given the other thread on how ncursesw cures those odd character strings, I've revisited this myself and I wonder if I could get suggestions. >>>> user at computer:$ sudo gem install ncursesw Building native extensions. This could take a while... ERROR: Error installing ncursesw: ERROR: Failed to build gem native extension. /usr/bin/ruby1.8 extconf.rb checking for unistd.h... yes checking for locale.h... yes checking for ncurses.h... yes checking for wmove() in -lncursesw... no checking for wmove() in -lpdcurses... no *** extconf.rb failed *** Could not create Makefile due to some reason, probably lack of necessary libraries and/or headers. Check the mkmf.log file for more details. You may need configuration options. <<<< Can anyone tell me where mkmf.log will be? Not in the directory where I ran gem install. I'm on Ubuntu 9.04 -- is that the problem? -- It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -- Kehlog Albran, "The Profit" -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Check out the terminal-title-text hook. -- William From wmorgan-sup@masanjin.net Wed Nov 10 10:04:15 2010 From: wmorgan-sup@masanjin.net (William Morgan) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:04:15 -0500 Subject: [sup-talk] Errors installing ncursesw In-Reply-To: <1289390629-sup-7999@blake> References: <1289390629-sup-7999@blake> Message-ID: <1289401337-sup-2208@masanjin.net> Reformatted excerpts from Shadowfirebird's message of 2010-11-10: > /usr/bin/ruby1.8 extconf.rb > checking for unistd.h... yes > checking for locale.h... yes > checking for ncurses.h... yes > checking for wmove() in -lncursesw... no > checking for wmove() in -lpdcurses... no > *** extconf.rb failed *** > Could not create Makefile due to some reason, probably lack of > necessary libraries and/or headers. Check the mkmf.log file for more > details. You may need configuration options. > <<<< > > Can anyone tell me where mkmf.log will be? Not in the directory where > I ran gem install. I'm not sure where mkmf.log is (I think newer versions of Rubygems are better about telling you) but the above messages are the clue that you need to apt-get install libncursesw-dev or something like it. -- William From marka@pobox.com Wed Nov 10 10:46:53 2010 From: marka@pobox.com (Mark Alexander) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:46:53 -0500 Subject: [sup-talk] Errors installing ncursesw In-Reply-To: <1289390629-sup-7999@blake> References: <1289390629-sup-7999@blake> Message-ID: <1289403600-sup-5733@r61> Excerpts from Shadowfirebird's message of Wed Nov 10 07:07:40 -0500 2010: > Can anyone tell me where mkmf.log will be? Not in the directory where I ran gem install. If you run 'gem env' you'll see something like this: ... - GEM PATHS: - /var/lib/gems/1.8 ... Then in that directory you'll see a directory called 'gems' that will contain the source directories for the various gems. mkmf.log should be in the directory containing the failing gem. If you look at the log, there will often be a clue pointing to a missing header file or library. To fix this, you'll typically have to install some kind of development library. For example, on Ubuntu, if you're getting failures installing the ncursesw gem, you'll probably have to install the libncursesw5-dev package. You can find a list of candidate packages by doing 'aptitude search ncursesw'. From mnjagadeesh@gmail.com Wed Nov 10 11:52:07 2010 From: mnjagadeesh@gmail.com (Jagadeesh N. Malakannavar) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 22:22:07 +0530 Subject: [sup-talk] sup compatible issue Message-ID: Hi, Couple days back I upgraded sup 0.10.2 to sup vgit. I noticed that ~/.sup/hooks are not in effect with sup vgit. Is it known issue? Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, Michael From hollunder@lavabit.com Wed Nov 10 15:43:31 2010 From: hollunder@lavabit.com (=?utf-8?q?Philipp_=C3=9Cberbacher?=) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 21:43:31 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] strange chars in email body In-Reply-To: <1289382791-sup-6828@ittemni> References: <1289382791-sup-6828@ittemni> Message-ID: <1289421693-sup-3466@eris> Excerpts from Amadeusz ?o?nowski's message of 2010-11-10 10:54:08 +0100: > Hi, > > Excerpts from Jagadeesh N. Malakannavar's message of Wed Nov 10 07:48:39 +0100 2010: > > I am seeing strange characters like > > > > > > M-b~@~S > > M-b~@~Y [for donM-b~@~Yt] > > > > In the email body. I am using > > > > $ sup -v > > sup vgit > > > > $ echo $LANG > > en_US.utf8 > > > > Am I setting anything wrong? > > Have you installed ncursesw gem? I'm not the original poster, run sup 0.11, have ncursesw installed and see stuff like that also all the time. Most of the time in mails from German windows (probably outlook) users. From mnjagadeesh@gmail.com Thu Nov 11 22:47:34 2010 From: mnjagadeesh@gmail.com (Jagadeesh N. Malakannavar) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:17:34 +0530 Subject: [sup-talk] sup integration LDAP? Message-ID: Hi, May I know hot to integrate sup with LDAP? OR I need to populate contacts.txt using separate script? Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tero@tilus.net Fri Nov 12 04:13:34 2010 From: tero@tilus.net (Tero Tilus) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 11:13:34 +0200 Subject: [sup-talk] sup integration LDAP? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1289552495-sup-8604@tilus.net> Jagadeesh N. Malakannavar, 2010-11-12 05:47: > May I know hot to integrate sup with LDAP? Sup has extra-contact-addresses hook you can use to integrate sup to external directories, e.g. LDAP. From `sup -l` ... extra-contact-addresses ----------------------- File: ~/.sup/hooks/extra-contact-addresses.rb A list of extra addresses to propose for tab completion, etc. when the user is entering an email address. Can be plain email addresses or can be full "User Name " entries. Variables: none Return value: an array of email address strings. ... There are integration instructions in sup wiki for two different approaches: either use lbdbq to query LDAP on demand (up to date) or directly read lbdb cache (fast). http://sup.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?LbdbIntegration -- Tero Tilus ## 050 3635 235 ## http://tero.tilus.net/ From vallentin@icsi.berkeley.edu Sun Nov 14 19:49:31 2010 From: vallentin@icsi.berkeley.edu (Matthias Vallentin) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 16:49:31 -0800 Subject: [sup-talk] (no subject) Message-ID: <20101115004931.GD34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> I am a Mutt user interested in switching to Sup. One thing that is not clear to me is how to find new unread messages that skipped the inbox. Coming from the world of mail folders, I can monitor each folder for unread messages and switch to it when I see that a new one has arrived. Often, a buffy tool (or the Mutt sidebar) can be used to display the various folders with their new message counts. How would that mindset translate to Sup? Would I have to regularly query all (or a just a subset of) labels to get an idea whether label X "received" a new message? Matthias From bwalton@artsci.utoronto.ca Sun Nov 14 20:46:13 2010 From: bwalton@artsci.utoronto.ca (Ben Walton) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:46:13 -0500 Subject: [sup-talk] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20101115004931.GD34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> References: <20101115004931.GD34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <1289785548-sup-7693@pinkfloyd.chass.utoronto.ca> Excerpts from Matthias Vallentin's message of Sun Nov 14 19:49:31 -0500 2010: Hi Matthias, The query: is:unread should work for you. This is such a common action that the key U is bound to run this query. Thanks -Ben -- Ben Walton Systems Programmer - CHASS University of Toronto C:416.407.5610 | W:416.978.4302 From ezyang@MIT.EDU Sun Nov 14 20:42:42 2010 From: ezyang@MIT.EDU (Edward Z. Yang) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 20:42:42 -0500 Subject: [sup-talk] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20101115004931.GD34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> References: <20101115004931.GD34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <1289785328-sup-6895@ezyang> Excerpts from Matthias Vallentin's message of Sun Nov 14 19:49:31 -0500 2010: > I am a Mutt user interested in switching to Sup. One thing that is not > clear to me is how to find new unread messages that skipped the inbox. > Coming from the world of mail folders, I can monitor each folder for > unread messages and switch to it when I see that a new one has arrived. > Often, a buffy tool (or the Mutt sidebar) can be used to display the > various folders with their new message counts. How would that mindset > translate to Sup? Would I have to regularly query all (or a just a > subset of) labels to get an idea whether label X "received" a new > message? I use the keybinding 'U', which performs the is:unread search. Cheers, Edward From matiasaguirre@gmail.com Sun Nov 14 20:50:57 2010 From: matiasaguirre@gmail.com (Matias Aguirre) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:50:57 -0200 Subject: [sup-talk] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20101115004931.GD34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> References: <20101115004931.GD34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <1289785794-sup-2712@mintaka> There's a unread folder you can check, just type shift+l to get the folder listing and it will be there. Mat?as Excerpts from Matthias Vallentin's message of Sun Nov 14 22:49:31 -0200 2010: > I am a Mutt user interested in switching to Sup. One thing that is not > clear to me is how to find new unread messages that skipped the inbox. > Coming from the world of mail folders, I can monitor each folder for > unread messages and switch to it when I see that a new one has arrived. > Often, a buffy tool (or the Mutt sidebar) can be used to display the > various folders with their new message counts. How would that mindset > translate to Sup? Would I have to regularly query all (or a just a > subset of) labels to get an idea whether label X "received" a new > message? > > Matthias -- Mat?as Aguirre From vallentin@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU Mon Nov 15 01:57:37 2010 From: vallentin@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Matthias Vallentin) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 22:57:37 -0800 Subject: [sup-talk] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1289785328-sup-6895@ezyang> References: <20101115004931.GD34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> <1289785328-sup-6895@ezyang> Message-ID: <20101115065737.GT34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> > I use the keybinding 'U', which performs the is:unread search. Without having tested it, the is:unread search seems to return a stream of unread messages, each of which can have arbitrary labels and is not necessarily ordered. Is there functionality that also displays unread counts per label? My chief interest is to find out how easy it is to obtain a one-shot, big-picture summary of unread mail. Matthias From helgedt@tihlde.org Mon Nov 15 03:06:12 2010 From: helgedt@tihlde.org (Helge Titlestad) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:06:12 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20101115065737.GT34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> References: <20101115004931.GD34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> <1289785328-sup-6895@ezyang> <20101115065737.GT34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <1289808190-sup-7457@colargol.tihlde.org> Excerpts from Matthias Vallentin's message of Mon Nov 15 07:57:37 +0100 2010: > Without having tested it, the is:unread search seems to return a stream > of unread messages, each of which can have arbitrary labels and is not > necessarily ordered. Is there functionality that also displays unread > counts per label? My chief interest is to find out how easy it is to > obtain a one-shot, big-picture summary of unread mail. "L" and then enter (don't search for anything) gives you a list of lables, including the unread count (although it does not order it by # unread). Is that what you're after? -- 77660 From brian@microcomaustralia.com.au Mon Nov 15 17:14:23 2010 From: brian@microcomaustralia.com.au (Brian May) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 09:14:23 +1100 Subject: [sup-talk] searching buffer Message-ID: Hello, When viewing a message, I can use "/text" to search for the first instance of "text" in the buffer. How do I repeat this and find the 2nd or even 3rd instance of "text"? Thanks -- Brian May From brian@microcomaustralia.com.au Mon Nov 15 18:58:54 2010 From: brian@microcomaustralia.com.au (Brian May) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:58:54 +1100 Subject: [sup-talk] searching buffer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 16 November 2010 10:54, Hamish D wrote: > Press enter to end the search, then press 'n' to go through subsequent > matches. Doesn't work. Instead of going to the next search results, it hides the results of the last search. Furthermore, the help on my system says n has a different function: n : Jump to next open message -- Brian May From blakes.85@gmail.com Mon Nov 15 19:16:10 2010 From: blakes.85@gmail.com (Blake Sweeney) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:16:10 -0500 Subject: [sup-talk] searching buffer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1289866508-sup-6130@prefontaine.local> Excerpts from Brian May's message of Mon Nov 15 17:14:23 -0500 2010: > When viewing a message, I can use "/text" to search for the first > instance of "text" in the buffer. > > How do I repeat this and find the 2nd or even 3rd instance of "text"? I use 'n'. Blake From groups@hjdivad.com Tue Nov 16 11:40:01 2010 From: groups@hjdivad.com (David J. Hamilton) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:40:01 -0800 Subject: [sup-talk] searching buffer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1289925383-sup-9748@nyx.local> Excerpts from Brian May's message of Mon Nov 15 15:58:54 -0800 2010: > On 16 November 2010 10:54, Hamish D wrote: > > Press enter to end the search, then press 'n' to go through subsequent > > matches. > > Doesn't work. Instead of going to the next search results, it hides > the results of the last search. You might want to retry with all of the messages open. The search feature seems to really only search the buffer, and not the ?collapsed? text (e.g. message body text in a closed message). The same applies to hitting ?n? to advance to the next search result. -- med v?nlig h?lsning David J. Hamilton From brian@microcomaustralia.com.au Tue Nov 16 17:30:09 2010 From: brian@microcomaustralia.com.au (Brian May) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:30:09 +1100 Subject: [sup-talk] searching buffer In-Reply-To: <1289925383-sup-9748@nyx.local> References: <1289925383-sup-9748@nyx.local> Message-ID: On 17 November 2010 03:40, David J. Hamilton wrote: > You might want to retry with all of the messages open. ?The search feature seems > to really only search the buffer, and not the ?collapsed? text (e.g. message > body text in a closed message). ?The same applies to hitting ?n? to advance to > the next search result. Yes, tried that. Like I said, 'n' hides all the existing search results. 'n' would appear to map to the "Jump to next open message" function, not the "find next search result" function. -- Brian May From groups@hjdivad.com Tue Nov 16 23:38:54 2010 From: groups@hjdivad.com (David J. Hamilton) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 20:38:54 -0800 Subject: [sup-talk] searching buffer In-Reply-To: References: <1289925383-sup-9748@nyx.local> Message-ID: <1289968347-sup-5996@nyx.local> Excerpts from Brian May's message of Tue Nov 16 14:30:09 -0800 2010: > On 17 November 2010 03:40, David J. Hamilton wrote: > > You might want to retry with all of the messages open. ?The search feature seems > > to really only search the buffer, and not the ?collapsed? text (e.g. message > > body text in a closed message). ?The same applies to hitting ?n? to advance to > > the next search result. > > Yes, tried that. > > Like I said, 'n' hides all the existing search results. In that case, my local copy of sup (v0.11 on ruby 1.8.7) is just behaving differently from yours for some reason. If I search for text using ?/?, subsequently hitting ?n? moves to the next instance. However, if I hit something like ?j? or ?k? then the search is unhighlighted and ?n? switches back to its ?Jump to next open message? function. The only other thing I can think of is that when I run a search in a buffer that has no results, ?n? never changes from its ?Jump to next open message? function. In any case, if somebody more knowledgeable than me gets to your question, hopefully they can shed some light on how one can do a search (in a thread buffer) of an entire thread's content, and not merely the content of the open messages. -- med v?nlig h?lsning David J. Hamilton From shadowfirebird@gmail.com Thu Nov 18 07:34:42 2010 From: shadowfirebird@gmail.com (Shadowfirebird) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 12:34:42 +0000 Subject: [sup-talk] Sup not sending mail body! Message-ID: <1290083492-sup-3720@blake> Hi, I've got a problem where I'm finding that Sup has sent my mail without the actual mail body. Unfortunately it's intermittent. You can see the results here: https://groups.google.com/group/ruby-talk-google/browse_thread/thread/3e8a776b0e5c063c?hl=en Anyone got any ideas? (Ubuntu 9.04; Sup 0.11.) -- "Most people would like to be delivered from temptation but would like it to keep in touch." -- Robert Orben From shadowfirebird@gmail.com Fri Nov 19 04:57:51 2010 From: shadowfirebird@gmail.com (Shadowfirebird) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:57:51 +0000 Subject: [sup-talk] Sup not sending mail body! In-Reply-To: <1290083492-sup-3720@blake> References: <1290083492-sup-3720@blake> Message-ID: (Replying to myself.) It appears my mail message made it to my gmail account (which I am using for SMTP send), but not to the ruby-talk mailing list. Could there be something about the way sup does headers that is confusing ruby-talk? I'm going to cross-post this to ruby-talk, too. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vallentin@icsi.berkeley.edu Sat Nov 20 14:04:54 2010 From: vallentin@icsi.berkeley.edu (Matthias Vallentin) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:04:54 -0800 Subject: [sup-talk] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1289808190-sup-7457@colargol.tihlde.org> References: <20101115004931.GD34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> <1289785328-sup-6895@ezyang> <20101115065737.GT34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> <1289808190-sup-7457@colargol.tihlde.org> Message-ID: <20101120190454.GR34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> > "L" and then enter (don't search for anything) gives you a list of lables, > including the unread count (although it does not order it by # unread). Is that > what you're after? Yes, that is what I am looking for. How easy is it to script/export this view? Say I have an external application that simply displays unread counts per label. Ideally, each time the view (i.e., unread count of all labels) changes, some trigger fires and reports the new data. Matthias From tero@tilus.net Sat Nov 20 20:10:44 2010 From: tero@tilus.net (Tero Tilus) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 03:10:44 +0200 Subject: [sup-talk] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <20101120190454.GR34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> References: <20101115004931.GD34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> <1289785328-sup-6895@ezyang> <20101115065737.GT34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> <1289808190-sup-7457@colargol.tihlde.org> <20101120190454.GR34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <1290301315-sup-1796@tilus.net> Matthias Vallentin, 2010-11-20 21:04: > Ideally, each time the view (i.e., unread count of all labels) > changes, some trigger fires and reports the new data. Sup has quite a few hooks waiting for your Ruby code. See `sup --list-hooks`. In this case you might want to take a closer look at after-poll and before-add-message. -- Tero Tilus ## 050 3635 235 ## http://tero.tilus.net/ From vallentin@icsi.berkeley.edu Sat Nov 20 20:51:46 2010 From: vallentin@icsi.berkeley.edu (Matthias Vallentin) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:51:46 -0800 Subject: [sup-talk] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <1290301315-sup-1796@tilus.net> References: <20101115004931.GD34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> <1289785328-sup-6895@ezyang> <20101115065737.GT34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> <1289808190-sup-7457@colargol.tihlde.org> <20101120190454.GR34938@icsi.berkeley.edu> <1290301315-sup-1796@tilus.net> Message-ID: <20101121015146.GC29873@icsi.berkeley.edu> > Sup has quite a few hooks waiting for your Ruby code. See `sup > --list-hooks`. In this case you might want to take a closer look at > after-poll and before-add-message. Excellent, I am looking forward to delving deeper into Sup. Thanks for the detailed information, Matthias From brian@microcomaustralia.com.au Sun Nov 21 21:17:10 2010 From: brian@microcomaustralia.com.au (Brian May) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 13:17:10 +1100 Subject: [sup-talk] sup not finding old messages Message-ID: Hello, On my system sup doesn't seem to be finding emails prior to Jan 2010 any more. Emails that I know are there. Any ideas? Thanks -- Brian May From mariano.mara@gmail.com Tue Nov 23 08:23:38 2010 From: mariano.mara@gmail.com (Mariano Mara) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:23:38 -0300 Subject: [sup-talk] Warning with mainline version Message-ID: <1290518444-sup-4196@kafka> Hi. I downloaded git mainline version after using 0.11 for a long time. I'm getting the following warning every time the before poll hook is executed: .sup/hooks/before-poll.rb:2: warning: method redefined; discarding old offlineimap_run This is waht I have in before-poll.rb: # http://sup.rubyforge.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Hooks def offlineimap_run() cmd = "offlineimap -o -l ~/.offlineimap.log" `#{cmd} 2>&1` end if (@last_fetch || Time.at(0)) < Time.now - 120 say "Running offlineimap..." log offlineimap_run() say "Finished offlineimap." end @last_fetch = Time.now I'm really bad with ruby, can somebody help me to get rid of this warning? TIA, Mariano From neeb@kpvn.de Wed Nov 24 12:54:29 2010 From: neeb@kpvn.de (Moritz Neeb) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 18:54:29 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] ncursesw encoding Message-ID: <4CED5155.3080502@kpvn.de> Hello everyone, William Morgan wrote: [sup-talk] System encoding versus messages encoding Tue Apr 22 19:18:00 EDT 2008 > The good news is that I've just made it slightly simpler, at least if > you're running from git. I've published an "ncursesw" branch that > contains a hacked ncurses-0.9.1 and a dirty script to install it into > your ../lib/ directory. If you use that AND you run from git next, > you'll see wide characters. It works! > > So, just a "few" "simple" commands: > $ git branch --track ncursesw origin/ncursesw > $ git checkout ncursesw > $ cd ncurses-0.9.1/ > $ ./run-this-for-sup.sh > $ cd .. > $ git checkout next > $ ruby -Ilib bin/sup > > ... and you should see wide characters, assuming your terminal is > capable. If make dies, you probably need to install some kind of > ncursesw development library. On my Debian system it's > a package called libncursesw5-dev. Is the suggested approach up to date? I am not really into git stuff, but I think the "next" repository is not in a state, that the commands below have the same effect than they had two years ago. Can you help me, to get this working? Is there another approach to get the message-encoding correctly displayed? -- Moritz Neeb From tero@tilus.net Wed Nov 24 14:09:44 2010 From: tero@tilus.net (Tero Tilus) Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:09:44 +0200 Subject: [sup-talk] ncursesw encoding In-Reply-To: <4CED5155.3080502@kpvn.de> References: <4CED5155.3080502@kpvn.de> Message-ID: <1290625650-sup-8253@tilus.net> Moritz Neeb, 2010-11-24 19:54: > Is there another approach to get the > message-encoding correctly displayed? Did you try installing ncursesw gem? -- Tero Tilus ## 050 3635 235 ## http://tero.tilus.net/ From neeb@kpvn.de Thu Nov 25 06:51:27 2010 From: neeb@kpvn.de (Moritz Neeb) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:51:27 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] ncursesw encoding In-Reply-To: <1290625650-sup-8253@tilus.net> References: <4CED5155.3080502@kpvn.de> <1290625650-sup-8253@tilus.net> Message-ID: <4CEE4DBF.7030600@kpvn.de> Tero Tilus wrote: > Moritz Neeb, 2010-11-24 19:54: >> Is there another approach to get the >> message-encoding correctly displayed? > > Did you try installing ncursesw gem? Yes, I installed it via 'gem install ncursesw', but it is not detected by sup: "No 'ncursesw' gem detected ..." btw: I installed sup as a debian package, not as gem. Could this be a problem? -- Moritz Neeb From tero@tilus.net Thu Nov 25 08:50:21 2010 From: tero@tilus.net (Tero Tilus) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2010 15:50:21 +0200 Subject: [sup-talk] ncursesw encoding In-Reply-To: <4CEE4DBF.7030600@kpvn.de> References: <4CED5155.3080502@kpvn.de> <1290625650-sup-8253@tilus.net> <4CEE4DBF.7030600@kpvn.de> Message-ID: <1290692520-sup-6531@tilus.net> Moritz Neeb, 2010-11-25 13:51: > I installed sup as a debian package, not as gem. Could this be a > problem? I don't know. Though I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be. Rubygems and Dpkg provide essentially the same service (package and dependency management) and are (afaik) not aware of each other. As a result they do not play together at all. Usually there are no collisions but ymmv. On Debian derivatives my route of least gray hair has been to install Rubygems from sources using defaults and as much of the Ruby stuff from gems as possible. -- Tero Tilus ## 050 3635 235 ## http://tero.tilus.net/ From rthrd@web.de Sat Nov 27 12:05:45 2010 From: rthrd@web.de (Ruthard Baudach) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 18:05:45 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] sup crashes on sending emails Message-ID: I've installed sup 0.11 using rubygem and ruby 1.8. sup crashes whenever I send an email, exception.log shows: --- TypeError from thread: main can't convert nil into String /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/mbox/loader.rb:117:in `exists?' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/mbox/loader.rb:117:in `store_message' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/util.rb:610:in `send' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/util.rb:610:in `__pass' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/util.rb:597:in `method_missing' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/sent.rb:28:in `write_sent_message' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/util.rb:570:in `send' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/util.rb:570:in `method_missing' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/modes/edit-message-mode.rb:346:in `send_message' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/modes/resume-mode.rb:37:in `send_message' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/modes/thread-view-mode.rb:428:in `send_draft' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/mode.rb:59:in `send' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/mode.rb:59:in `handle_input' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/buffer.rb:279:in `handle_input' /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/bin/sup:279 /usr/bin/sup-mail:19:in `load' /usr/bin/sup-mail:19 I've found this on http://masanjin.net/sup-bugs/ marked as "solved", but could not find any hints how to solve this problem. Ruthard -- Erstellt mit Operas revolution?rem E-Mail-Modul: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From lurkos.usenet@gmail.com Sat Nov 27 13:17:46 2010 From: lurkos.usenet@gmail.com (Lurkos) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:17:46 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] IMAP, labels, editors Message-ID: Hello all! It's quite a long time ago since I started to look for an e-mail client with features like Gmail, and it seems that *sup* fulfill these requirements. First of all I would like to great all the contributors for their work. However I have a couple of questions to better understand how *sup* works. I've read in the latest History file that IMAP support is deprecated. Are you going to drop it? I mainly use IMAP to read my e-mail boxes, because I need to deal with them from different workstations (say: home, office, laptop, etc.). For this reason the local Maildir approach won't work for me. Are the labels stored in a local database or also stored as flags via IMAP? Of course the second choice would be much more beneficial for people using e-mail from different locations. What happens if a new message is added to the mail spool from another source? Does *sup-sync* preserve labels already associated? Is it possible to _delete_ a message via IMAP (say: mark as \Deleted and then Expunge, using IMAP terminology)? According to your FAQ, it seems that only mbox spools support a real delete process. About message composition, do you have any recommended editor, given the fact that I never used a lot Vi nor Emacs? Thank for your help! -- Lurkos From adam@alloy-d.net Sat Nov 27 14:02:51 2010 From: adam@alloy-d.net (Adam Lloyd) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 14:02:51 -0500 Subject: [sup-talk] sup crashes on sending emails In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1290883976-sup-4600@nagato.alloy-d.net> Excerpts from Ruthard Baudach's message of 2010-11-27 12:05:45 -0500: > I've installed sup 0.11 using rubygem and ruby 1.8. > > sup crashes whenever I send an email, exception.log shows: > > > --- TypeError from thread: main > can't convert nil into String > /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/mbox/loader.rb:117:in > `exists?' > /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.11/lib/sup/mbox/loader.rb:117:in > `store_message' *snip* > I've found this on http://masanjin.net/sup-bugs/ marked as "solved", but > could not find any hints how to solve this problem. The problem is that store_message tries to access @filename, which was presumably removed at some point in favor of @path. Just replacing @filename with @path in lines 117 and 118 of the file mentioned in the trace will fix it. It is also fixed in git. -Adam -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: not available URL: From damien.leone@fensalir.fr Sat Nov 27 15:26:43 2010 From: damien.leone@fensalir.fr (Damien Leone) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:26:43 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] IMAP, labels, editors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1290889043-sup-6470@mailer> Hi, Excerpts from Lurkos's message of sam. nov. 27 19:17:46 +0100 2010: > I've read in the latest History file that IMAP support is deprecated. > Are you going to drop it? I mainly use IMAP to read my e-mail boxes, > because I need to deal with them from different workstations (say: > home, office, laptop, etc.). > For this reason the local Maildir approach won't work for me. You can use offlineimap to fetch e-mails from your IMAP server and save them as Maildir that are then added in sup. By setting your hooks properly you can automatically call offlineimap before polling (see the wiki). > Are the labels stored in a local database or also stored as flags via IMAP? > Of course the second choice would be much more beneficial for people > using e-mail from different locations. > What happens if a new message is added to the mail spool from another > source? Does *sup-sync* preserve labels already associated? Everything is stored locally, sup does not modify the Maildir sources but there is a maildir-sync branch that allows you to keep synchronized in both directions between your IMAP server and your sup database. This is still under development though. > Is it possible to _delete_ a message via IMAP (say: mark as \Deleted > and then Expunge, using IMAP terminology)? According to your FAQ, it > seems that only mbox spools support a real delete process. Same as above. > About message composition, do you have any recommended editor, given > the fact that I never used a lot Vi nor Emacs? I use emacs with post-mode. Cheers, -- Damien Leone Web: http://dleone.fensalir.fr/ GPG: 0x82EB4DDF From moritz+sup@wzff.de Sat Nov 27 15:57:27 2010 From: moritz+sup@wzff.de (Moritz Wilhelmy) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:57:27 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] IMAP, labels, editors In-Reply-To: <1290889043-sup-6470@mailer> References: <1290889043-sup-6470@mailer> Hi, Message-ID: <1290890855-sup-3282@niflheimr> Excerpts from Damien Leone's message of Sat Nov 27 21:26:43 +0100 2010: > > I've read in the latest History file that IMAP support is deprecated. > > Are you going to drop it? I mainly use IMAP to read my e-mail boxes, > > because I need to deal with them from different workstations (say: > > home, office, laptop, etc.). > > For this reason the local Maildir approach won't work for me. > > You can use offlineimap to fetch e-mails from your IMAP server and > save them as Maildir that are then added in sup. By setting your hooks > properly you can automatically call offlineimap before polling (see > the wiki). Alternatives to offlineimap to store mail in mbox/maildir include getmail (which is what I use) and fetchmail. > > About message composition, do you have any recommended editor, given > > the fact that I never used a lot Vi nor Emacs? > > I use emacs with post-mode. sup's keybindings are modeled largely after mutt's, and not really modeled after neither vim nor emacs, so you don't have any benefits in learning how to use sup if you already know how to use vim/emacs (or vice versa). sup has a setting where you can change your preferred editor. As far as I remember, the tool that initially writes the configuration (`sup-config') defaults to vim. Personally, I use vim with mail-syntax-hilighting. Best regards, Moritz From lurkos.usenet@gmail.com Sat Nov 27 18:34:55 2010 From: lurkos.usenet@gmail.com (Lurkos) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 00:34:55 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] IMAP, labels, editors In-Reply-To: <1290890855-sup-3282@niflheimr> References: <1290889043-sup-6470@mailer> <1290890855-sup-3282@niflheimr> Message-ID: On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Moritz Wilhelmy wrote: >>> I've read in the latest History file that IMAP support is deprecated. >>> Are you going to drop it? I mainly use IMAP to read my e-mail boxes, >>> because I need to deal with them from different workstations (say: >>> home, office, laptop, etc.). >>> For this reason the local Maildir approach won't work for me. >> >> You can use offlineimap to fetch e-mails from your IMAP server and >> save them as Maildir that are then added in sup. By setting your hooks >> properly you can automatically call offlineimap before polling (see >> the wiki). > > Alternatives to offlineimap to store mail in mbox/maildir include getmail > (which is what I use) and fetchmail. The main drawback of this approach is that you have to copy all your mailbox in every location. This mean several GiB for me. That's why I would prefer to keep everything on the IMAP server (and periodically backup it in a single computer). >>> About message composition, do you have any recommended editor, given >>> the fact that I never used a lot Vi nor Emacs? >> >> I use emacs with post-mode. > > sup's keybindings are modeled largely after mutt's, and not really modeled > after neither vim nor emacs, so you don't have any benefits in learning > how to use sup if you already know how to use vim/emacs (or vice versa). > sup has a setting where you can change your preferred editor. As far as I > remember, the tool that initially writes the configuration (`sup-config') > defaults to vim. > Personally, I use vim with mail-syntax-hilighting. That's true: *sup* initially selects vim as default mail editor. I never had before special requirements for text editor and therefore gedit was enough. Do you think is worth spending time to learn a text-based editor even for writing e-mails? Cheers, -- Lurkos From lurkos.usenet@gmail.com Sat Nov 27 20:27:14 2010 From: lurkos.usenet@gmail.com (Lurkos) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 02:27:14 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] IMAP, labels, editors In-Reply-To: <1290889043-sup-6470@mailer> References: <1290889043-sup-6470@mailer> Message-ID: On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Damien Leone wrote: >> I've read in the latest History file that IMAP support is deprecated. >> Are you going to drop it? I mainly use IMAP to read my e-mail boxes, >> because I need to deal with them from different workstations (say: >> home, office, laptop, etc.). >> For this reason the local Maildir approach won't work for me. > > You can use offlineimap to fetch e-mails from your IMAP server and > save them as Maildir that are then added in sup. By setting your hooks > properly you can automatically call offlineimap before polling (see > the wiki). > >> Are the labels stored in a local database or also stored as flags via IMAP? >> Of course the second choice would be much more beneficial for people >> using e-mail from different locations. >> What happens if a new message is added to the mail spool from another >> source? Does *sup-sync* preserve labels already associated? > > Everything is stored locally, sup does not modify the Maildir sources > but there is a maildir-sync branch that allows you to keep > synchronized in both directions between your IMAP server and your sup > database. This is still under development though. This seems really interesting... and possibly a indication that the IMAP support would not be dropped. Thanks for your answers. Cheers, -- Lurkos From damien.leone@fensalir.fr Sun Nov 28 04:21:12 2010 From: damien.leone@fensalir.fr (Damien Leone) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 10:21:12 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] IMAP, labels, editors In-Reply-To: References: <1290889043-sup-6470@mailer> Message-ID: <1290935803-sup-8547@mailer> Excerpts from Lurkos's message of dim. nov. 28 02:27:14 +0100 2010: > This seems really interesting... and possibly a indication that the > IMAP support would not be dropped. What I meant exactly is that with this branch sup modifies your Maildir sources, and by using offlineimap you can reflect them to the remote IMAP server. AFAIK sup will not reintegrate IMAP support, I think the main reason is because of the poor and slow IMAP support in the ruby libraries. Indeed you have to download all your e-mails but since I use sup only on one machine this is not very annoying plus it allows me to backup my e-mails and access them *offline*. -- Damien Leone Web: http://dleone.fensalir.fr/ GPG: 0x82EB4DDF From lurkos.usenet@gmail.com Sun Nov 28 09:05:32 2010 From: lurkos.usenet@gmail.com (Lurkos) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:05:32 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] IMAP, labels, editors In-Reply-To: <1290935803-sup-8547@mailer> References: <1290889043-sup-6470@mailer> <1290935803-sup-8547@mailer> Message-ID: On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Damien Leone wrote: >> This seems really interesting... and possibly a indication that the >> IMAP support would not be dropped. > > What I meant exactly is that with this branch sup modifies your > Maildir sources, and by using offlineimap you can reflect them to the > remote IMAP server. Thanks for explaining. Yesterday I spent a couple of hours to search for more details about *sup*, *notmuch* and *offlineimap*. What I still have not completely understood is how *sup* is going to store label information inside Maildir sources. According to this message (http://lists.madduck.net/pipermail/mailtags/2007-August/msg00016.html), IMAP tags would not be perfect (even if probably the best solution in my opinion). Another problem is that is not completely clear if *offlineimap* would sync also these "special" tags. > AFAIK sup will not reintegrate IMAP support, I > think the main reason is because of the poor and slow IMAP support in > the ruby libraries. If ruby libraries don't support some feature that you need, it would be reasonable to drop IMAP support. However if the only problem is the speed, I would keep it, at least for now. > Indeed you have to download all your e-mails but since I use sup only > on one machine this is not very annoying plus it allows me to backup > my e-mails and access them *offline*. Therefore the only possible solution seems to have a personal server running 24/7 and using *sup* via *ssh*. Cheers, -- Lurkos From damien.leone@fensalir.fr Sun Nov 28 09:50:15 2010 From: damien.leone@fensalir.fr (Damien Leone) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 15:50:15 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] IMAP, labels, editors In-Reply-To: References: <1290889043-sup-6470@mailer> <1290935803-sup-8547@mailer> Message-ID: <1290955366-sup-9628@mailer> Excerpts from Lurkos's message of dim. nov. 28 15:05:32 +0100 2010: > Thanks for explaining. > Yesterday I spent a couple of hours to search for more details about > *sup*, *notmuch* and *offlineimap*. > What I still have not completely understood is how *sup* is going to > store label information inside Maildir sources. > According to this message > (http://lists.madduck.net/pipermail/mailtags/2007-August/msg00016.html), > IMAP tags would not be perfect (even if probably the best solution in > my opinion). > Another problem is that is not completely clear if *offlineimap* would > sync also these "special" tags. Currently everything is stored in the xapian database that stays local to sup. On the maildir-sync branch, only the following flags are exported [0]. That means that you have two sets of labels, the ones on the IMAP server and the others in sup. Usually offlineimap will create a Maildir source per IMAP label (at least with gmail) so it is easy to add them separately in sup and auto-apply rules for each (such as apply a label, archive messages from this source, etc.) so it is not too painful. > Therefore the only possible solution seems to have a personal server > running 24/7 and using *sup* via *ssh*. Yep, that's my case. [0] : http://cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html -- Damien Leone Web: http://dleone.fensalir.fr/ GPG: 0x82EB4DDF From lurkos.usenet@gmail.com Mon Nov 29 13:59:28 2010 From: lurkos.usenet@gmail.com (Lurkos) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [sup-talk] IMAP, labels, editors References: <1290889043-sup-6470@mailer> <1290935803-sup-8547@mailer> <1290955366-sup-9628@mailer> Message-ID: <63f0d2ea234ebf04fe1fb894d9ad2dee.XPN@L622243018051.user.x-privat.org> *Damien Leone* wrote: >> Thanks for explaining. >> Yesterday I spent a couple of hours to search for more details about >> *sup*, *notmuch* and *offlineimap*. >> What I still have not completely understood is how *sup* is going to >> store label information inside Maildir sources. >> According to this message >> (http://lists.madduck.net/pipermail/mailtags/2007-August/msg00016.html), >> IMAP tags would not be perfect (even if probably the best solution in >> my opinion). >> Another problem is that is not completely clear if *offlineimap* would >> sync also these "special" tags. > > Currently everything is stored in the xapian database that stays local > to sup. On the maildir-sync branch, only the following flags are > exported [0]. | Flag "F" (flagged): user-defined flag; toggled at user discretion. I have not completely understood what can be stored inside this special user-defined flag. Here (http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir#IMAP_keywords) I found a non-standard way to implement some flags, but I don't how if offlineimap would support it. > That means that you have two sets of labels, the ones on the IMAP > server and the others in sup. Usually offlineimap will create a > Maildir source per IMAP label (at least with gmail) so it is easy to > add them separately in sup and auto-apply rules for each (such as > apply a label, archive messages from this source, etc.) so it is not > too painful. > >> Therefore the only possible solution seems to have a personal server >> running 24/7 and using *sup* via *ssh*. > > Yep, that's my case. Unfornately it doesn't apply to me, also because I have a standard ADSL home connection. > [0] : http://cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html -- Lurkos From damien.leone@fensalir.fr Mon Nov 29 15:08:33 2010 From: damien.leone@fensalir.fr (Damien Leone) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:08:33 +0100 Subject: [sup-talk] IMAP, labels, editors In-Reply-To: <63f0d2ea234ebf04fe1fb894d9ad2dee.XPN@L622243018051.user.x-privat.org> References: <1290889043-sup-6470@mailer> <1290935803-sup-8547@mailer> <1290955366-sup-9628@mailer> <63f0d2ea234ebf04fe1fb894d9ad2dee.XPN@L622243018051.user.x-privat.org> Message-ID: <1291061030-sup-7886@mailer> Hi, Excerpts from Lurkos's message of lun. nov. 29 19:59:28 +0100 2010: > I have not completely understood what can be stored inside this special > user-defined flag. I have always seen this one used as the "starred" / "favourite" flag. > Unfornately it doesn't apply to me, also because I have a standard ADSL > home connection. Same for me but since I'm the only user on the machine and that's perfectly fine. ^^ Just a matter of taste. I use a pogo-plug running Debian, very low energy consumption (ARM CPU) and enough performances for my tasks (reading mails, ssh, accessing my stuff, etc.). Cheers, -- Damien Leone Web: http://dleone.fensalir.fr/ GPG: 0x82EB4DDF From lurkos.usenet@gmail.com Mon Nov 29 21:36:24 2010 From: lurkos.usenet@gmail.com (Lurkos) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 02:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [sup-talk] IMAP, labels, editors References: <1290889043-sup-6470@mailer> <1290935803-sup-8547@mailer> <1290955366-sup-9628@mailer> <63f0d2ea234ebf04fe1fb894d9ad2dee.XPN@L622243018051.user.x-privat.org> <1291061030-sup-7886@mailer> Message-ID: *Damien Leone* wrote: >> I have not completely understood what can be stored inside this special >> user-defined flag. > > I have always seen this one used as the "starred" / "favourite" flag. OK. >> Unfornately it doesn't apply to me, also because I have a standard ADSL >> home connection. > > Same for me but since I'm the only user on the machine and that's > perfectly fine. ^^ Just a matter of taste. I use a pogo-plug running > Debian, very low energy consumption (ARM CPU) and enough performances > for my tasks (reading mails, ssh, accessing my stuff, etc.). Like SheevaPlug? Seems really interesting! -- Lurkos