From manish@gslab.com Wed Sep 3 08:03:03 2008 From: manish@gslab.com (Manish Sapariya) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:33:03 +0530 Subject: [sup-talk] CCing to self mail id when composing mail Message-ID: <48BE7CF7.1090103@gslab.com> Hi All, Two queries: First: ====== I have configured the ask for CC and I want to CC to myself. I am using sendmail for sending mail. However I am not receiving mail copy to myself. I tried bcc, and specifying my mail id in to field as well. Is it sup or sendmail which is removing the self id? any ideas? Second: ======= Can I configure sup to always include self mail id in CC when composing new mail or replying to any other mail. Thanks for any help. Regards, Manish From wmorgan-sup@masanjin.net Wed Sep 3 23:29:38 2008 From: wmorgan-sup@masanjin.net (William Morgan) Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:29:38 -0700 Subject: [sup-talk] CCing to self mail id when composing mail In-Reply-To: <48BE7CF7.1090103@gslab.com> References: <48BE7CF7.1090103@gslab.com> Message-ID: <1220498835-sup-9828@entry> Reformatted excerpts from Manish Sapariya's message of 2008-09-03: > I have configured the ask for CC and I want to CC to myself. I am > using sendmail for sending mail. However I am not receiving mail copy > to myself. I tried bcc, and specifying my mail id in to field as well. > > Is it sup or sendmail which is removing the self id? any ideas? It's probably your sendmail setup. Sup is just passing that stuff through unchanged. You can try enabling logging on sendmail's end somehow... > Can I configure sup to always include self mail id in CC when > composing new mail or replying to any other mail. I believe the before-edit hook can be used for this. Place something like the following in ~/.sup/hooks/before-edit.rb: header["Cc"] = my at email.address (untested!) -- William From daniel.wagner@gmail.com Thu Sep 4 01:53:27 2008 From: daniel.wagner@gmail.com (Daniel Wagner) Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:53:27 -0400 Subject: [sup-talk] CCing to self mail id when composing mail In-Reply-To: <48BE7CF7.1090103@gslab.com> References: <48BE7CF7.1090103@gslab.com> Message-ID: <1220507464-sup-1482@buckwheat> Excerpts from Manish Sapariya's message of Wed Sep 03 08:03:03 -0400 2008: > Is it sup or sendmail which is removing the self id? > any ideas? I don't know if this is related, but I have noticed that sup is a little bit too smart for itself. I sometimes also CC myself. Though these messages appear in my procmail.log, sup seems to recognize that they are a duplicate of a message already in the index, and silently hides them. So: check your procmail (or whatever) log to really see whether you are getting a copy. ~d From gzjjgod@gmail.com Thu Sep 4 20:20:12 2008 From: gzjjgod@gmail.com (Jjgod Jiang) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 08:20:12 +0800 Subject: [sup-talk] Error trying to sup-sync a maildir Message-ID: Hi, When I was trying to sync my maildir (which was synced from gmail with isync) using sup-sync, after it loaded 1328 messages, it crashed with the following backtrace: /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.6/lib/sup/message.rb:376:in `message_to_chunks': undefined method `multipart?' for # (NoMethodError) from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.6/lib/sup/message.rb:371:in `multipart_encrypted_to_chunks' from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.6/lib/sup/message.rb:382:in `message_to_chunks' from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.6/lib/sup/message.rb:214:in `load_from_source!' from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.6/lib/sup/message.rb:194:in `chunks' from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.6/lib/sup/message.rb:144:in `snippet' from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.6/lib/sup/index.rb:182:in `sync_message' from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.6/lib/sup/util.rb:499:in `send' from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.6/lib/sup/util.rb:499:in `method_missing' ... 11 levels... from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.6/bin/sup-sync:131:in `each' from /Library/Ruby/Gems/1.8/gems/sup-0.6/bin/sup-sync:131 from /usr/bin/sup-sync:19:in `load' from /usr/bin/sup-sync:19 Rats, that failed. You may have to do it manually. Is there anything I can do to solve this issue? - Jiang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wmorgan-sup@masanjin.net Mon Sep 8 14:47:43 2008 From: wmorgan-sup@masanjin.net (William Morgan) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:47:43 -0700 Subject: [sup-talk] CCing to self mail id when composing mail In-Reply-To: <1220507464-sup-1482@buckwheat> References: <48BE7CF7.1090103@gslab.com> <1220507464-sup-1482@buckwheat> Message-ID: <1220899449-sup-112@entry> Reformatted excerpts from Daniel Wagner's message of 2008-09-03: > I don't know if this is related, but I have noticed that sup is a > little bit too smart for itself. I sometimes also CC myself. Though > these messages appear in my procmail.log, sup seems to recognize that > they are a duplicate of a message already in the index, and silently > hides them. Oh yeah. Sup collapses dupes. That would do it. That's another interesting lesson I've learned about email in the process of writing Sup. Two messages with the same message id are more likely than not to NOT be exactly the same message. For example, any time you get a message both cc'ed and through a mailing list, they'll have the same message id, but the mailing list one will probably have extra content (ML signatures and taglines) and different headers. -- William From nicolas.pouillard@gmail.com Mon Sep 8 15:29:20 2008 From: nicolas.pouillard@gmail.com (Nicolas Pouillard) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:29:20 +0200 Subject: [sup-talk] CCing to self mail id when composing mail In-Reply-To: <1220899449-sup-112@entry> References: <48BE7CF7.1090103@gslab.com> <1220507464-sup-1482@buckwheat> <1220899449-sup-112@entry> Message-ID: <1220902090-sup-3097@ausone.local> Excerpts from William Morgan's message of Mon Sep 08 20:47:43 +0200 2008: > Reformatted excerpts from Daniel Wagner's message of 2008-09-03: > > I don't know if this is related, but I have noticed that sup is a > > little bit too smart for itself. I sometimes also CC myself. Though > > these messages appear in my procmail.log, sup seems to recognize that > > they are a duplicate of a message already in the index, and silently > > hides them. > > Oh yeah. Sup collapses dupes. That would do it. > > That's another interesting lesson I've learned about email in the > process of writing Sup. Two messages with the same message id are more > likely than not to NOT be exactly the same message. For example, any > time you get a message both cc'ed and through a mailing list, they'll > have the same message id, but the mailing list one will probably have > extra content (ML signatures and taglines) and different headers. Do you get a conclusion, concerning email-tools design? -- Nicolas Pouillard aka Ertai -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I don't know if I have reached some kind of limit :-). Any hint about what is going on with my sup? Cheers, Israel From wmorgan-sup@masanjin.net Wed Sep 10 16:29:44 2008 From: wmorgan-sup@masanjin.net (William Morgan) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:29:44 -0700 Subject: [sup-talk] Inbox mode loads all the messages In-Reply-To: <1220956744-sup-911@elly> References: <1220956744-sup-911@elly> Message-ID: <1221078119-sup-1715@entry> Reformatted excerpts from israel.herraiz's message of 2008-09-09: > my inbox view is loading all the messages. It is quite strange, > because those messages do not have the "inbox" label. If I archive > them, save the changes, quit sup, and start sup, it will load all > the messages again. Very weird. Do searches for other labels work correctly? What about searches for regular words? > I am probably have too many labels (108). I don't know if I have > reached some kind of limit :-). There's no label limit. Ferret treats them as regular words so it should be able to scale to, like, trillions. You could try creating a small set of emails and starting a fresh Sup on it (set the environment variable SUP_BASE to a new directory and Sup will use that as its configuration dir instead of ~/.sup),and seeing if Sup exhibits the same behavior on that. That would at least narrow it down to something having happened to your system (new Ruby, new and incompatible Ferret, etc.). -- William From israel.herraiz@gmail.com Wed Sep 10 17:40:46 2008 From: israel.herraiz@gmail.com (Israel Herraiz) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:40:46 +0200 Subject: [sup-talk] Inbox mode loads all the messages In-Reply-To: <1221078119-sup-1715@entry> References: <1220956744-sup-911@elly> <1221078119-sup-1715@entry> Message-ID: <1221082291-sup-9750@elly> Excerpts from William's message on Sep 10, 2008 about 10 PM: > Very weird. Do searches for other labels work correctly? What about > searches for regular words? Some searches work well, some others not. Those that do not work show all the same messages incorrectly shown in the inbox. It seems like those messages would be "persistent", and they are shown everywhere. > There's no label limit. Ferret treats them as regular words so it should > be able to scale to, like, trillions. Ok. Good to know. > You could try creating a small set of emails and starting a fresh Sup on > it (set the environment variable SUP_BASE to a new directory and Sup > will use that as its configuration dir instead of ~/.sup),and seeing if > Sup exhibits the same behavior on that. That would at least narrow it > down to something having happened to your system (new Ruby, new and > incompatible Ferret, etc.). I killed all those messages. That removed them from the inbox, although they persisted in the searches. I had all the messages in two mboxes file. One of about 500 MB (inbox), and another one of 1 GB (mbox). I moved all the messages to one file (~1.5 GB), and after that I ran sup-sync with --all-sources and -as-is and some other options I don't remember. However, the same behavior persisted. So I decided to access the index directly from ruby. I recovered all the killed messages, added them the inbox label, saved the index, removed the killed and inbox labels, saved again, and now it is working. Probably it is an issue with Ferret. Or maybe it is because my email volume. Unfortunately, I did not keep the non-working index. If I find the same issue again, I will try to make a copy of the index just in case you want to try to reproduce the bug. Thanks anyway for your comments. Cheers, Israel From kapil.foss@gmail.com Thu Sep 11 13:43:20 2008 From: kapil.foss@gmail.com (Kapil Thangavelu) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:43:20 -0400 Subject: [sup-talk] problems downloading 0.6 Message-ID: <9c97bd2b0809111043k6d9f364tea895c80640b8b3a@mail.gmail.com> hi folks, i was trying to give sup, but ran into some installation issues. attempting to download sup via gem turns in an error where ruby forge has tagged the sup distribution file as a virus. ie. picking a random mirror for example link http://rubyforge.rubyuser.de/sup/sup-0.6.tgz leads to """ File has been dropped. ProxyAV Administrator: unknown 2008-09-11 13:40:56-04:00EDT Hardware serial number: 1908081029 ProxyAV (Version 3.1.2.1(34850)) - http://www.BlueCoat.com/ Antivirus Vendor: Kaspersky Labs Scan Engine Version: 5.0.0.38 Pattern File Version: 080911.160218.1213098 (Timestamp: 2008.09.11 16:02:18) Machine name: ProxyAV2 Machine IP address: 140.147.236.197 Server: 80.237.222.133 Client: 140.147.174.68 Protocol: ICAP Virus: "Exploit.HTML.Iframe.FileDownload" found! URL: http://rubyforge.rubyuser.de/sup/sup-0.6.tgz """ any ideas on a work around? thanks, kapil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sup@davekap.com Thu Sep 18 11:21:55 2008 From: sup@davekap.com (Gladwright) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [sup-talk] thunderbird import success Message-ID: <19555367.post@talk.nabble.com> 'Sup? I had large Thunderbird files to import. Similar to other reports here, importing the files as mboxes didn't work for me. I converted the mboxes to maildirs using mb2md, and then imported, and all was well. I'm pretty new to Linux and Ruby with aspirations to be proficient in both. I was thrilled to find Sup. I had so been longing for a different email experience, and so far Sup is giving me what I needed, plus it's written in Ruby. Yahoo! Cheers, Dave -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/thunderbird-import-success-tp19555367p19555367.html Sent from the SUP Talk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. From wmorgan-sup@masanjin.net Thu Sep 18 15:41:17 2008 From: wmorgan-sup@masanjin.net (William Morgan) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:41:17 -0700 Subject: [sup-talk] thunderbird import success In-Reply-To: <19555367.post@talk.nabble.com> References: <19555367.post@talk.nabble.com> Message-ID: <1221766839-sup-286@entry> Reformatted excerpts from Gladwright's message of 2008-09-18: > I had large Thunderbird files to import. Similar to other reports here, > importing the files as mboxes didn't work for me. > > I converted the mboxes to maildirs using mb2md, and then imported, and all > was well. Great, very good to know. > I'm pretty new to Linux and Ruby with aspirations to be proficient in > both. I was thrilled to find Sup. I had so been longing for a > different email experience, and so far Sup is giving me what I needed, > plus it's written in Ruby. Glad you like it! -- William From sup@davekap.com Fri Sep 19 23:21:15 2008 From: sup@davekap.com (Gladwright) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [sup-talk] thunderbird import success In-Reply-To: <1221766839-sup-286@entry> References: <19555367.post@talk.nabble.com> <1221766839-sup-286@entry> Message-ID: <19582301.post@talk.nabble.com> I added a guide for ThunderbirdImport to the wiki. As I'm just a newb, I hope everyone will feel free to improve on its format, language, and details. I included some ruby commands I used in irb to automate some of the steps. I'm relatively a ruby newb too, so I would enjoy seeing improvements there as well. Cheers, Dave -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/thunderbird-import-success-tp19555367p19582301.html Sent from the SUP Talk mailing list archive at Nabble.com.